http://www.baseball-almanac.com/boxscore/04121992.shtml
And there is the box score from that game.
So if you really wanted to throw a no-hitter and had nothing to play for at the end of the season you could walk everyone but one batter (a pitcher or catcher maybe) as long as he struck out and this would count as a no-hitter?
Andy Hawkins of the 1990 Yankees also lost a no-hitter. The White Sox scored a couple runs on errors, and the dreadful Yankees lineup of that year couldn’t manage any run support.
Sure, if it was a home game. But your manager would pull you long before that. And after an inning of pulling that, there would be the biggest bench clearing brawl in history as your first 7 batters get hit in the head.
Why would it have to be a home game?
And why would the first 7 batters get hit in the head?
I understand that the manager won’t let it happen, I was just wondering.
Because you need to pitch all 9 innings to make it a REAL no hitter If you didn’t pitch the 9th inning, (as would be expected, if you walked the first 8 batters of each inning), then you don’t get credit for an official no-hitter, in the record books. Unless your team scored 40 runs, you wouldn’t get to pitch the bottom of the 9th.
Your first 7, or 8, or 4, or 5, or some ridiculous number of batters would get beaned because the opposing team wouldn’t put up with that kind of bullshit. They want to play baseball, and they’d send a message any way that they could. Retaliating for disrespecting them like that would be done through a hail of beanballs the likes of which the world has never seen before.
Actually, I just realized, if you strike out the pitcher 24 times, and walk everyone else, you’ll give up 21 runs per inning. Thus, in order to pitch the bottom of the 9th inning in a road game, your team would have to have scored at least 168 runs, to make it a tie.
Wow, a 3-1 record with an ERA of 2.77 is only reasonably well?
Tough crowd here.
YES! And that is why I started this this thread.
This is how the headlines should have been for that no hitter:
San Francisco:
GIANTS GET ONLY THREE MEN ON BASE VIA WALKS. NO HITS. PHIL PITCHER MILLWOOD SHARP IN COMPLETE GAME.
Philadelphia:
PHILS HOLD GIANTS TO THREE WALKS, NO HITS. MILLWOOD PITCHES COMPLETE GAME GEM.
So, a quick poll:
What was the most impressive?
A. Kerry Wood’s 20 strikeout game.
B. Koufax’s Perfect Game.
C. Harvey Haddix’s 12 perfect innings (although he lost)
Although Koufax is a god, I have to pick C. To do that against that Brave lineup was a masterpiece. And Haddix wasn’t a power pitcher like Woods and Koufax. He had only 8 strikeouts so he must have been in complete control and had all the Braves off balance for 12 innings.
That is almost inconceivable that he pitched 12 perfect innings. Today the starter wouldn’t be left in that long.
I just had to jump in here to say that I go to one or two Cubs games a year and in 1998, that was the one I went to.
Still have the ticket. It was an amazing display. Too bad about the elbow, but he’s doing very well this year, I hope he keeps it up.
A complete game 1-0 shutout featuring no hits and three walks is just “sharp?” Geez. A three-hit shutout of a lineup that good, and a team winning that much, would get more attention than that, let alone what the game really was (a no-hitter).
And I was there the night Wilt chamberlain scored 100 points.
JUST KIDDING! That must have been something to see. He won yesterday, I believe.
Ok Marley VERY sharp.
I disagree with the OP’s notion that anything short of a strikeout reflects a failure on the pitcher’s part.
If a Sandy Koufax can blow fastballs past Willie Mays, and strikes him out 4 times in a game, that’s very impressive. But if a Randy Jones throws a lot of sinkers, and Mike Schmidt ends up grounding weakly to short 4 times, THAT’S impressive too! Unlike the OP, I don’t dismiss Jones’ accomplishment by saying, “The shortstop really did all the work.”
A guy who hits a weak grounder to second or a pop-up to shallow center is just as out as a guy who goes down on strikes. So, at the end of the day, if Randy Jones throws a 4-hit shutout with no strikeouts, that’s just as good as Randy Johnson throwing a 4-hit shutout with 17 strikeouts. Outs are outs.
Did you read the OP? or anythiing else I wrote here? Are you drunk?
Is this post a joke?
No, but your original post WAS a joke, probably posted in a drunken stupor. You backtracked from it a bit (you knew that no-hitters aren’t bullshit as soon as you posted it) so I give you some small credit for recognizing what a ridiculous thing it was to post in the first place.
It was ridiculous because EVERY accomplishment in baseball could be considered “bullshit” if you analyzed it to death. YOU’RE the one who asserted that Don Larsen’s perfect game is demeaned somehow because a few of those 27 outs COULD have been hits, if he’d gotten a bad break or two. But flame-throwing pitchers catch some lucky breaks, too. SOME of the “strikes” they throw are actually foul balls that missed being extra-base hits or homers by inches. And some of the strikes they throw could or SHOULD have been taken downtown. Even Nolan Ryan occasionally had to breathe a sigh of relief and thank his lucky stars (“Whew, I sure got away with one there!”).
If Don Larsen needed a nice play in the field from Mickey Mantle, well, that’s what center fielders are THERE for! And if you don’t think Curt Flood saved Bob Gibson’s butt on a regular basis, you’re dreaming.
The pitcher gets all of the credit. How many outfielders end the season with 11 wins and 6 loses? How many times has a sports reporter said “The catcher was credited with the loss?” The pitcher is the one that gets the glory, but also the blame.
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Great article, djf, I loved the part about how “registration is free!”
Can you give us a hint as to what it was about?
Sorry…
BASEBALL’S LONGEST GAME
Duel Till Dusk
The pitchers didn’t flinch, so darkness ended the 26-inning marathon in 1920
Quote
“I can beat that bum. If Oeschger wants to keep on pitching, I can do the same thing. I’m no sissy.”
By Howie Stalwick, Special to The Times: [entire copyrighted New York Times article deleted by Czarcasm]
A pitcher can have complete control of his pitches and still get bombed off the mound in 1/2 an inning. just because a pitcher can throw a pitch within an inch of where he wants it to go doesn’t mean that the batter has no chance of hitting it.
As for Haddix, he didn’t have complete control that day, in fact he was fighting a cold and said to his catcher that his curve ball didn’t have its usual snap.