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Wow, did Trunk just accuse us of racism?
It’ll be released in June.
You and I are never going to the movies together, Trunk. Guys in fat suits or fat women suits aren’t funny to me. Eddie Murphy playing different characters in the same movie is Eddie Murphy at his most vain or just doing a stunt. I’d rather they hired a fat actor/actress. I qualify that by saying that the Nutty Professor movies were enjoyable, with Eddie as the fat professor and the skinny, evil alter ego. The parts with Eddie playing every member of the family at the dinner table were just a vain stunt, imho. YMMV.
Well, not racism exactly, but that low-amplitude culture-disparaging that you get from people who hate all rap, think the NBA has lost its fundamentals, and are sure that Norbit is made for the 12 and under crowd.
But I don’t get your implication. . .
Should I read your sentence as
Wow, did TRUNK did just accuse us of racism?
or
Wow, did Trunk just accuse us of RACISM?
A vain stunt?
Is Mike Myers doing a vain stunt in the Austin Powers movies?
Was Chaplin doing a vain stunt in the Great Dictator?
Was Sellers doing a vain stunt in Dr. Strangelove?
The whole multiple-characters thing is a comedy staple – a student of theater would probably tell you it goes back a lot further than Chaplin. You might not think the characters were funny, but I don’t get the vain stunt bit.
Did anyone else see the parody they did of the Norbit trailer on Saturday Night Live?
It was for a movie called “Nurse Nancy” starring Scott Garbaciak, Scott Garbaciak, Scott Garbaciak, Scott Garbaciak, Scott Garbaciak,Scott Garbaciak, Scott Garbaciak, and Scott Garbaciak.
Yes. It’s in the record. Although I didn’t actually say a thing about Norbit, I’m glad you tied that in. After all, if I thought that one movie where people dress up in suits sucks, then I must think they all suck. God knows I can’t have an opinion.
Whoa.
If preceeding a statement with “Just for the record. . .” isn’t an attempt to stifle dissenting opinion, I don’t know what is.
It’s a statement of my opinion. For the record… I believe this. Out of curiosity, did you see and like all the movies you listed?
No problem. For the record, a score of 13% on the Tomatometer is pretty damn awful.
Norbit doesn’t have any ranking yet, but one will appear here once it’s released. I realize we’re just going by the trailer, but using what evidence we have right now I’ll be shocked if it scores higher than White Chicks did.
Not all, but I’m not arguing that they’re good. I’m arguing that the blind-faith trashing of them simply because of their premises is bad practice.
First of all, some of it is ridiculously condescending (“are you 12?”).
Second of all, some of it is misguided, and I don’t think people think through this. As I alluded to earlier. . .if you’re just trashing a movie BECAUSE you think it’s a vain stunt for an actor to play multiple characters, then I hope you come down on Dr. Strangelove and Austin Powers for the same thing.
If you think that that practice, in and of itself, is such a huge negative, then I hope you can defend it in regard to all projects that use it. A dude in a wheelchair with an arm that he can’t control? Dr. Strangelove may be a better movie than Big Momma’s House, but no one is criticizing the movie here. . .they’re criticizing that it’s a guy in a fat suit.
That is to completely ignore Martin Lawrence’s ability to do funny dances, use funny voices, introduce new words and phrases, create a character who interacts with the other characters in a consistent and distinct style from his main character. It’s to completely ignore a talent that 99.99% of us don’t have, and to disparage those who appreciate that kind of humor.
Hey, I can get behind your sentiments 100%. I was criticizing “White Chicks” based soley upon having seen the movie and thinking that it was awful. I have no idea what Norbit is even about. I’ve seen the previews, but I haven’t been able to extrapolate any sort of story line from them yet. So, to get this thread back on track, can anyone explain what the premise is?
Personally I’m really bloody sick to death of black men dressing up as massively obese women for laughs. It’s not just lazy and unoriginal: there’s an underlying thread of cruelty, misogyny, and racism. After all, why don’t these movies feature real large (or even fat-suited) black women in the lead roles? Answer: because it’s oh-so-hilarious to depict large black women as masculine, ugly, asexual/overly sexual, scary, and generally grotesque.
Compare these insulting performances with the Kids in the Hall, probably the most popular recent white comedians who often dressed in drag for their sketches. Their women were characters, often quite sympathetically portrayed, with no more buffoonery or grotesquerie than their male counterparts. Even Monty Python’s drag performances, though more outrageous and stereotypical, weren’t hateful.
The tradition of black male comedians in drag goes back at least as far as Flip Wilson’s ‘Geraldine’, but at least she was likeable. Things grew worse by the time SNL rolled around. Lorne Michaels didn’t bother hiring black comediennes for many years; Garrett Morris in a wig was enough of a black female representation.
Now the grotesqueries are over the top and embarrassing. Just have a black comic slap on a fat suit and a wig and that’s the end of the characterization. Apparently to Hollywood, black women are indistinguishable from black men in a dress. And that just pisses me right off.
Flip Wilson was pretty hot as Geraldine, at least he had great legs.
But yeah, that’s nothing like the current crop of men dressing up as big, fat, ugly women.
You and your friend haven’t seen Leonard Part 6, then.
I’m coming to this a bit late, but… Please play nice. We do not allow personal insults in this forum, as you well know. And while some of the comments here are not technically “insults”, they’re certainly not what I’d call courteous or good manners.
Y’all can do better. It is possible to have different views on a show without belittling each other.
No, that’s just my gut reaction to the trailer. But as far as I’m concerned, as long as it includes the scenes they show in the trailer, the only way it could not be the worst movie ever is if the entire rest of the movie were a documentary on how filmmakers sell out and go with cheap fat jokes. I know they’ll try to shove a moral message down your throat at the end and make it sympathetic, but it’s obvious they aren’t advertising it that way.
Well there’s a reasonable we can have. How much money do I have to put in some fool’s pocket before I get to say his movie sucks. I’m assuming they didn’t put the least funny jokes in the trailer, because I’m assuming some intelligence on their part. Is that not reasonable?
That’s an excellent point. This kind of humor seems to me like it’s reinforcing racial stereotypes about black women being “masculine” (the flip side of the stereotype of Asian men being “effeminate”). I’d also wager it makes plenty of cheap jokes about how gross fat people are. :rolleyes:
I second Bowfinger, thought it was excellent.