Is that is, a hotel cost for travels? Really??? I’m talking about billions of dollars here like Iran received, not a hotel, travel, and meals costs.
We’ll see how this progresses. De-nuclearization needs to happen, Trump’s not going to give them money and just hope. That was the former president’s act.
The sheer tribalism of “It’s good when my side does it and bad when the other side does” is just jaw-dropping…
Not may go to terrorism.
John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money **will **go to terrorism
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Can I head some more applause for the Iran deal?
And what happens if, like every other time this has been attempted, North Korea doesn’t decide to abandon what it sees as an existential necessity to its continued existence? Do your beliefs update at all?
Oh please spare us. Everyone here is hoping it works. It’s just that most of us are well-aware that the odds of it working are akin to the odds that global warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese. Meanwhile, the Iran deal wasn’t perfect, but it was working and considerably better than nothing.
The Iran deal kept us verfiably safe, until Trump cancelled it. Now they are taking steps to restart their nuclear program. We were safer under Obama; Trump has made us less safe.
And now he is giving away the farm to his pal Kim. We are less safe under Trump.
I have a comment. Well, more of a question. You showed the cash the plane to Iran?
You literally don’t understand the question, so I’ll rephrase. Should North Korea gets sanctions relief, how would you like the frozen funds to be delivered to them? Cash, check, electronic transaction, or what?
The signature is not the point of a deal. The deal says that each party is responsible for doing various things. If each party carries out those things, that means the deal is being carried through. If there’s a signature but no action – like how Russia is party to the INF Treaty and is currently in violation of the treaty, but Trump is doing nothing about it, that means the treaty isn’t much of a deal.
To say it another way, actions speak louder than words.
Part of the calculation is that Obama haters would probably have their heads explode if the Supreme Leader and the President sat down to sign a deal together. This shows the magnanimity of President Obama: he did not want to have one-fifth of the American population spontaneously combust, thereby saving millions of lives of people who would never vote for him. Not having signatures on the JCPOA was basically a charitable, lifesaving act to those who get their opinions from Fox News. That’s the stuff of sainthood right there.
In that the paper they signed was meaningless, yes, that is a stark contrast to the Iran deal.
It is easily found in the news. A few pages back I tried to explain several parts of the JCPOA which you were clearly misinformed about, but I don’t think you read it. Any person is fully capable of being well-informed on matters relating to the JCPOA; it’s just that some choose their opinions of it before understanding it.
I demand purity of essence. I first noticed it during the physical act of love.
So when’s the last time a Democratic President agreed to suspend military exercises with South Korea?
Well, Carter had that idea to withdraw all U.S. troops from South Korea. That was dumb.
Trump ended joint exercises with South Korea, gave Kim the pageantry and legitimacy he’s craved for years, and gave him personally the highest praise, all in exchange for nothing. Big win for Kim, and Kim didn’t have to give up anything at all in return. Why would Kim give up anything when Trump is giving him so much for free?
I thought Iran just got their own money back (i.e. assets that were frozen)?
$400 million? Well, that explains it. Whose bright idea was it to pay them in singles?
I stumbled on this.
When NK negotiated with the Obama Administration the deal lasted 3 weeks.
But that was a deal with real terms and conditions , not this high schoolish “We are going to pinkie-swear that we will be friends and not fight so much and I’ll try to pay back that money I borrowed.” Signing something that vague may hold some personal meaning for the 2 people that signed it, but there’s nothing remotely enforceable in there.
The last administration made the calculation that there was a good chance NK would renege, so they were rather low key about the agreement - knowing that if they started ballyhooing their great accomplishment they might just end up having to walk it all back.
Kim got his photo op and his big night on the town. But he’s still the brutal dictator of an incomprehensible country who has cast America as their archenemy for decades. The agreement is so inconsequential that Kim has nothing to lose if he decides to violate it . And he could make Trump look like the naive dotard that he is. I think it’s going to fall apart.
But I think Kim may replace Putin in Trump’s affections. Because the Kims have built a system where they can force an entire country to believe the most outrageous and braggadocious lies that they can think up, and anyone that refuses to believe is imprisoned, starved and tortured for the rest of their lives along with their kids and grandkids. Plus his citizens have to literally worship his photo. And he has a young hot wife that wouldn’t dare get mad at him and refuse to show her face for 3 weeks. I think Trump’s in love.
I think you’ve nailed it.
I hate Trump like the devil, but if sucking up to this tin plated dictator will cause him to actually give up his nuclear weapons, he has done well.
I think Kim will indeed renege, and Trump lie, deny, scream and jump up and down. But “giving up t he nukes” can be drawn out for years.
I believe this was before the nuclear deal was finalized, and sanctions still in place. The US couldn’t just wire them the money because Iran didn’t have any access to western banking institutions.
And it was their money.
Like hell he will.
I mean… has North Korea even declared its nuclear weapons?
How do you even inspect or verify something that hasn’t even been declared?
I’m sure sometime this week Xi Jinping called up Kim Jong Un saying “See, it worked, you owe me 10 bucks.”
Kim will probably wriggle out of it, but so will Trump, “I trusted Little Rocket Man! He is so untrustable!”
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Top left, minister of foreign affairs for Iran.
What are you talking about? Kim gave Trump lots of stuff. He told him he was very smart and very rich, and that he has very big hands, and he gave him a big beautiful letter to show off to everyone so he can prove how important he is. Not like those unfair G7 leaders who kept saying “no” to him and refused to let his friend Vladdy play with them.
Or did you mean giving up things for America? Because Trump doesn’t care about that.
