…they didn’t even run the movie 2010 on any of the channels last night!
When it crossed over into 2001, AMC ran 2001: A Space Odyssey right at the dot of midnight!
I’m severely disappointed. I had to pull out my DVD and put it in.
Last week in the comic Sally Forth, the husband said he was disappointed that we hadn’t visited Europa and that Jupiter hadn’t turned into a sun. That’s the closest thing to a reference I’ve seen. I’m calling this the sequel year myself.
Fun fact: Larry King was the host of 2010 when it ran on TCM, and he said he liked it more than he liked 2001. :rolleyes: As if we didn’t have enough reasons to laugh at Larry King.
2010 was shown on TCM today.
Any word on the US Lunar program? I know there’s plans in the works for a moon base starting in 2020 and the space shuttle is being mothballed this year. How’re we supposed to find the obelisk on the moon if we can’t even get there?
2001: A Space Oddysey is one of the most influential science fiction films, and one of the most famous books, of the 20th Century.
2010: The Year we Make Contact is neither of those things.
QED.
How did a trained engineer/scientist like Arthur C. Clarke even create the stupid premise of 2010?
2001 was was based on good, plausible science. Believable.
2010 was based in stupid, non-science. Two suns over the earth? a moon of Jupiter that explodes? Huh?
Doesn’t Clarke expect his audience to know that gravity is, like, ya know, kinda important? and that if you mess with huge planet-size objects, well, maybe, like,ya know,…it might affect the earth’s orbit? Which like,. ya know, might kinda cause some nasty changes, even bigger than the changes that made the dinosaurs go extinct?
Huh? What moon exploded? What gravitation effects would you expect if you artificially compacted Jupiter using machines?
If you compacted Jupiter to a small star (which, BTW, should not be able to sustain fusion as it is too small - unless of course you had some magical machine to help you) or even to a black hole, there would be no gravitational effects on the Earth. There would only be gravitational effects if you added mass, which is not what happened in the movie or the book (the monolith just converted the mass to another form, monoliths, and them compacted it).
Regarding the two suns, so what? What bad effects would you expect? Since insolation falls off with the inverse square of the distance, the energy of the Jupiter star would be about 1 millionths as bright as the sun when it is at its closest point to Earth. This calculation assumes that the radiation at Europa due to Jupiter is about the same as that of the sun at Earth. What this says about the rate of fusion and the forces being added by the monolith machines in excess of gravity maybe someone really smart like Chronos or Stranger could answer for you.
On edit: The whole gravity changes meme when you blow up a star (or otherwise change the mass/energy configuration) just pisses me off. That was my biggest disappointment with Star Trek Generations. Blowing up a star does not change gravity for objects far away from the star, as long as the mass distribution is uniform, the gravity will be the same about the center of mass.
I can see his point, actually. 2001 was a ballet set in space - it’s hard to follow the plot if you haven’t read the book. If you have, of course, it’s beautiful - but it isn’t exactly accessible. 2010 is much more a straightforward scifi/thriller - but a well-made one, with some genuinely creepy (and moving) moments.
I entirely agree. In fact, that’s what I came in to say, but **Guano **beat me to it.
True, 2010 pales in comparison to 2001, but that’s only because the latter is the Citizen Kane of the science fiction genre.
As a stand-alone film, I thought 2010 was a solid sci-fi action flick with an interesting story and pretty good (for the time) special effects. I’ll watch if I happen to come across it while flipping through the channels.
Anyway, on a similar note to what the OP wrote, I was pretty disappointed that 2001 didn’t get a wide theatrical release in 2001. That’s one of the movies I would most like to see on the big screen.
2010 was my favorite of the two.
And yeah, I get that the science is laughable but I the story was waayy more interesting IMO. Also, being a Star Trek fan, you really can’t get all pissy about the science; now can you? 
Did we make contact with anybody? It’s been 25 years or however many, so I can’t remember.
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In 1985, the year the film 22010: The Year we Make Contact came out, Utah Senator Jake Garn went up into orbit on the Space Shuttle, something widely viewed as the Ultimate (pointless) Junket.
In response, someone put out a poster like the one from 2010, only with the balding Jake Garn in the place of the StarChild, and with the title changed to 1985: The Year He Used Contacts (presumably to get himself on board the shuttle).
Sadly, no one seems to have a copy of the poster on line. But there is this: