Obama loses. Do the young take their ball and go home?

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[QUOTE=nashiitashii]
I’m 25 and the political world that I’ve grown up with has been quite grim, so I’m pretty cynical about American politics to start with. I like Obama, mostly because he’s making some sincere attempt to relate to me when thinking about policy. Clinton and McCain are both so old that their policies don’t reflect an understanding of what people in their early 30s and younger are going through, and I’m really not sure who I’d vote for if Obama isn’t the Democratic candidate. It’s definitely not going to be Huckabee (yes, I know, a snowball’s chance in hell, but he’s still scary to me), but I don’t know which would be a lesser of two evils between Clinton and McCain. I have very little confidence in the government at present, and I have little hope for significant enough change to not crush my generation under the weight of supporting the Boomers once they all are retired.

I’ve had serious thoughts about expatriating for years. This election and its results may light a fire under my ass to get out for a while.
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Yes you can certainly do that. I lived in Europe for 4 years before coming back. I wanted to stay though.

As for me? I’ll tell you this much, and this isn’t only the “youth” vote. If Hillary wins without having won the most amount of pledged delegates, by way of a super-delegate push, I am going to be very unhappy. So unhappy that I’ll vote for McCain out of spite. If Obama wins by the same token I probably won’t vote for him either. I refuse to endorse that kind of thing. I voted for Obama in the primary btw.

But if Hillary wins fair and square, then I don’t know. I suppose I’ll vote for her depending on how it all works out. Although I don’t know if I’d like to endorse her behavior up to this point. I’m 26, btw.

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[QUOTE=suranyi]
Two points:

  1. You do know that the prime minister of Canada is a conservative now, at least by Canadian standards, don’t you?
  2. You do know that if you want to immigrate to Canada and work there there are some requirements and procedures you have to follow, don’t you? You can’t just cross the border willy-nilly like a tourist.

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I’m fully aware of the fact that there’s procedures required. Being 25 does not automatically mean I’m stupid, and I’d appreciate it if you’d acknowledge that. I understand that I would require a work visa (among other things) in order to be allowed to stay in Canada, and I also understand that there has to be demand for my position in Canada (and most likely not enough Canadians qualified to do it). IIRC, Canada’s at least a wee bit more liberal than the United States, and if I don’t expatriate at all, I’m at least going to get out of Floriduh and into an area where I don’t feel like I’m surrounded by abject morons.

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What, exactly, does that mean?

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I’ll be 25 in May, so I guess my friends and I still count as youth.

While most of us would probably hold our noses and vote for Clinton if she won the nomination fair and square, there’s a lot of serious discussion about sitting out the November election entirely if she gets the nomination by having the Florida and Michigan delegates seated. Some would peel off even if it were a matter of superdelegates alone pushing things her way. The Democratic Party has a lot to lose if it engages in too much wheeling and dealing this year.