No, maybe I think this country is over run with people with a sense of entitlement and a total lack of appreciation of American values and how it became the mightiest country in the world. I don’t need Trump to tell me what I see with my own two eyes.
Here we have a thread where I merely want the the voluntary agreement of the visa holders enforced and suddenly Adaher and I are idiots . 480,000 are in violation of this agreement and like every liberal solution not enough tax money is being spent. Yeah, that’s it. :smack: We have endless amounts of money for Dreamers and Syrian refugees but no money to enforce Visa laws.
If people are so damn eager to get into the country, let them put up a bond. Once they’ve overstayed, private citizens can hunt these people down and bring them in for deportation, and collect the bond. Remember these are criminals.
Hell, I’d quit my job to get onto that line of work. I’l specialize in Thais.
I would bet a large chunk of Visa overstays are just clerical/paperwork issues. Seems a tad over dramatic to suggest I remember that they are criminals.
But your bounty hunter scheme sounds fun. You should type up a screenplay.
I was going to ask if it was different for any other country, but Siam Sam answered that. With the talk of “why bother putting a date on it?” and “only 1% of overstayers are caught”, I was wondering how many people with tourist visas actually overstayed. But that would be work.
So instead I googled the Sudwerks microbrewery and pub house in Davis. Back in the late eighties or early nineties it made the paper when the owner (one of the owners? a non-owner founder? the brewmeister?) was denied re-entrance to the US after visiting family in Germany. Turns out he’d come on a tourist visa and never converted to a worker’s visa. Someone found out he’d been working and he was denied re-entry for five years. Sounds like the denial length has been boosted since then.
I remember that assurances were given that the quality of beer would stay high because core employees had been fully trained and they’d be staying in touch in any case and waiting for the five years to be over. This turned out to be the case.
The wiki entry does not mention the event. Google also does not provide references to the old issue, so I can’t give any confirmed details. Sadly, Google did provide the news that there has been a change in ownership and that the menu has been changed. Many decry the loss of the German food. Most report that the beer is still good.
Sudwerks is looking for ambassadors. They will have no involvement with any visas.
So I still don’t know how many people overstay their tourist visas. Or how many of the people that overstay are trying to immigrate rather than, say, staying at Disneyland an extra week. I do know that one overstayer founded a good microbrewery, but that’s an anecdote, not data, and should have no effect on the debate.
I’m sorry, do private bounty hunters work for free? I think not!
They work for ‘bounty’, which requires funding, no matter what!
Funding republicans will never vote for. Just like every other issue, they demand the government ‘do something’ at the same time they demand cutting/ denying funding, and demanding smaller government.
All while demanding expanded services! Just the same old completely unrealistic demand/expectation. This is why they just can’t be taken seriously. They don’t have actual workable plans. Just a lot of frothy rhetoric and no actual workable solutions.
Funnily enough, when I think of “people with a sense of entitlement and a total lack of appreciation of American values and how it became the mightiest country in the world” Trump would be near the top of the list.
We don’t think you’re an idiot for wanting visa laws enforced. I want that too. Pretty much everyone wants that.
But thinking “we have endless amounts of money for Dreamers and Syrian refugees”? Thinking that the national budget agreed by House Republicans is so fungible that Obama can just apply money wherever he wants? Thinking we can enforce every law on the books even when Congress has deliberately cut budgets to the agencies responsible for doing so? Those are not signs of well-reasoned positions.
If you want to be a bounty hunter, go be a bounty hunter. Nothing is stopping you. It does seem a bit weird that you’d be so keen to hunt down visa overstayers when you could already be going after far more serious threats to public safety such as murderers and armed robbers and rapists. Perhaps your priorities are also not particularly well-reasoned.
So are you saying massive numbers of white people came and that made the USA #1?
This “diversity is our strength” is inherently racist. It puts forth the idea that race is the most important factor in achieving prosperity.
Conservatives think that any group of people who embrace transparent and corruption free democratic government, capitalism, freedom, rule of law, property rights, and (GASP) Jeudo-Christian values (or similar ideologies) will thrive.
So let’s take Mexico. Not the poorest country by far but given its resources and proximity to the USA, one would think that it would be doing much better. Based on my research, its problems are cultural. They spend more time being angry about Trump than their own corrupt government. It never occurs to Mexicans that their response to Trump should be that they are going to make Mexico so great that they’ll need a wall to keep Americans out. They have a loser mind set not a winner mind set like Trump. Do you see anyone protesting what Vicente Fox says? You know why? No one gives a shit what he thinks. He’s on the level of a McDonald’s Assistant manager as far as I’m concerned.
They weren’t just white people, you know. Vast numbers of Chinese and (GASP) Mexicans came and added to the country during that period too.
No, it puts forth the idea that **diversity **is the most important factor in achieving prosperity. It’s kind of stated directly. It’s having lots of different viewpoints and experiences interacting with one another. When Sotomayor said that it would be valuable to have a Hispanic member of SCOTUS the conservative media went batshit, claiming she was being “racist” and saying that Hispanics were better than white people, when to the non-batshit mind it was fairly clear that she was pointing out that she would add a new perspective to the Court which had been missing. And she was right.
There’s nothing racist in saying that a more diverse mix of people - including people of different races - is better than a more homogeneous population. And it’s certainly not a slam at white people to say that non-whites have something of value to add.
Conservatives certainly say that. In practice that “any group of people” tends to be much narrowly applied. And it’s surprising how the phrase “Judeo-Christian values” varies greatly depending on who you ask; it’s almost as if it’s objectively meaningless.
Your research?
A lot of Mexicans don’t give a fuck about Trump. And more illegal immigrants are leaving America to go back to Mexico than are coming to America these days. I guess they can’t handle all that greatness.
Trump doesn’t have a “winner” mindset. He has a narcissistic one. Trump loves Trump, and has repeatedly screwed over investors, employees, customers and occasionally family members to get what he wants. And he will happily screw over America and everyone who voted for him if it benefits him personally, leaving the country in ruins like so many of his previous efforts.
You might as well say that Charlie Sheen has a “winner” mindset. Just saying “Winning!” all the time is not a form of winning, and may well be a form of delusion.
Probably because he hasn’t been president for a decade now. If GW Bush weighed in, we wouldn’t give a shit about what he thought either.
This idea that illegal aliens are simply just cutting in line is about the most ridiculous in this whole debate. There is no line, the people who get to come and stay here legally should consider themselves the lucky ones.
There are some people here who simply should not be deported. The children of the undocumented, raised here, are essentially American and lacking only a technicality. Sending them to the land of their birth is unspeakably and needlessly cruel, they are not equipped to deal with such a world. We would be shipping a fresh load of victims for hard and predatory men.
