“Except that the average size for women these days is 16, according to my roommate’s copy of Talk magazine last month. And, to be honest, 16 isn’t that big. Women in the 10-12 size range look the healthiest and most attractive to me, personally, but I get very tired of people telling me I’m “fat” because I’m short and I wear size 14-16!”
Are you serious? Size 16 is the AVERAGE??
Omigod!!
My wife is size 2!!! She is fine and is not anorexic. She iis just 5’0" but she is not starving or anything.
Does that mean that the other extreme is size 32?
I have an ex-wife and she was size 8 when we got married and looked “FINE”!! She was 5’7" and obviously had the potential for hugeness.
She later “MATURED” or whatever your term for it is (I call it laziness) and she is now a 14 or 16. She, in my opinion is very huge. Way beyond anyone that I would look at twice when scanning a room.
My opinion is that there is a reason that people get big like that. They eat and eat and eat again but never exercise. I could be huge too but I keep myself in great shape. It is a choice that I make everyday. I don’t think that anyone should feel bad because they are not attracted to overweight or obese women. Same for women, they shouldn’t feel the need to date a fat guy because they haven’t in a while.
That is just another choice. If you want to then go ahead. If not then don’t. I still cant believe that the average size is 16 though. I think that someone came up with that to make some women feel better about themselves.
If it is true then I guess that all the talk of people getting fat and lazy is very correct. I’m just glad that I don’t count myself among them.
Well, I am also a big advocate of exercise (and, in principle, of eating well…although I am sloppier on that score). But, I think your statement here is extreme. While I agree that people have more control over their weight than, say, their height, it is also clearly a matter of genetics, etc. For example, I remember a woman in an outdoor’s club I was in who was quit stocky even though I am sure she was in very good shape.
And, I knew a woman who was in fantastic shape…She once ran 11 miles in the morning and then went hiking in the afternoon with a college friend and I, both who considered ourselves to be in very good shape. (I was hiking in the mountains nearly every weekend, playing ultimate, …) Suffice it to say, my friend and I seemed to develop a strong desire to stop and admire the view on the way up the mountain. We admitted to one another later that this was because this woman’s pace was very nearly killing us. Anyway, while I don’t think this woman would be described as heavy by any means, she wasn’t as thin as one might expect for someone in her condition (and for being such a serious long-distance runner) and this had in fact led her to have anorexia when she was younger.
And, I as for the whole subject of having people feel good about themselves, I am all for encouraging people to stay in shape and being honest with them about the disadvantages of being obese. But, I don’t want them to feel they are “bad” or undesirable people if they are heavy. I think they should still be able to feel good about themselves as people. As for what the average size is, who knows? But, I know that a very large percentage of both men and women in this country are classified as obese.
“While I agree that people have more control over their weight than, say, their height, it is also clearly a matter of genetics, etc. For example, I remember a woman in an outdoor’s club I was in who was quit stocky even though I am sure she was in very good shape.”
I’m not saying that there aren’t different genetics but that doesn’t give anyone the excuse to just be fat and blame it on their genetics.
I have seen many huge, and I mean HUGE people who busted their asses and got into great shape. You really have to have the desire and not quit. If the desire isn’t there then it aint going to start to happen.
And I’m not saying that people aren’t allowed to be fat in my mind. I’m just saying that most men don’t desire fat or overfat women. Big is fine and doesn’t say anyting about bodyfat.
The OP said that he didn’t see why it wasn’t ok for him to not desire fat women.
You aren’t wrong to not find them attractive. And women aren’t wrong to find short men unattractive. At least the fat women can do something about their lack of desirability though. Short men are not going to ever get taller so you could argue that you are more right. At least you can say that fat women are too lazy to do what it takes to make themselves desirable to you.
Unfortunately, it was a typo. Let me post the original message …
“me” should have been “men.” Because of the goof, I ended up looking like a superficial, sizeist jerk.
Personally, though, I struggle to find myself attracted to very large women. It’s that feeling that I’m no longer a “protector” (the vice-vcersa of the reason women supposedly seek out tall men), and that I’d be physically “overwhemed.” :eek:
Actually, elmwood, I don’t think you particularly came off as a “sizeist jerk.” I think you came off as a guy with a question, which was answered a while back before Lizard and I came along and hijacked your perfectly nice thread. Sorry about that.
If you don’t want a girl to say your too short ask out someone shorter than you !!! its not that amazing an idea !.
I think everyone wants a good looking, rich and compatible personality ( believe me, a rich super model girlfriend who you cant stand is NOT going to work ! )partner BUT how many of them exist outside of TV land ?
Its all part of ‘sexual selection’ which in turn is part of natural selection.
I have a good looking friend who is constantly harassed by women and hates going out !, honest to god, he is just sick of it all !
