Okay, NFL Players, you guys have about 45 minutes left to do the right thing

I suspect any player who boycotted the SB would see his future earnings impacted.

Trump in the White House is a whole different thing. It’s the end of even pretending we’re decent people with values.

I don’t support a player boycott, however.

Some people probably heard it from me. I don’t kow where I heard it, but it was enough. I heard Trump…interview…O’Rielly…halftime…
and that was enough for me to turn the TV off just to make sure. Can’t be too careful. What a fucked up world we have now when a good way to impress the President is to fuck up his TV ratings. It’s his game, not mine.

The OP is calling for this one policy to be reversed by the boycott, not for Trump to be kicked out of the WH. Is it your contention that Trump’s Immigration Executive Order is worse than the Iraq War? That was the point marshmallow was trying to make, I believe.

The Iraq war was certainly the subject of some protests at the time, but there was the appearance of a legitimate reason for the invasion, and a debate that could be considered to be within the mainstream of American policy disputes. In retrospect, of course, the reasons advanced were less compelling. This current fiasco, on the other hand, is indefensible from the get go.

I disagree but in fairness, marshmallow was asking the OP that question, so it shouldn’t by incumbent on you to answer. Especially since you said didn’t support the boycott.

Quit being stupid.

First, what Trump did is worse than all those things. He made the United States of America a country that supports religious bigotry. Those other things all involve people doing good things but going too far.

Second, none of those things would have someone in the Super Bowl who would be adversely affected. There were no Afghanis or Iraqis in the Super Bowl. There weren’t any people who had their data used illegally. No Saudis. And no one affected by drone strikes

This isn’t hard. I literally had the answer the second you asked, even though I’d never thought about it before.

It gets hard to assume good faith when you see people missing the obvious in ways that happen to help Trump.

Ah, so no one can have an opinion of what others should do unless they have the same life experiences. Gotcha. So all those people who defend or attack Trump have no right, since they aren’t and will never be President.

Everything else you say is predicated on this false premise, so I won’t quote it. But I will point out that all of your situations involve people who aren’t as rich as NFL players and thus have less freedom, do not inherently involve Muslims or people affected by the situation, and are not widely popular and thus are not good protests.

In short, nothing you say has any bearing on what Monty is saying. And, again, my assumption of good faith is hard to maintain. You hate Trump, yet you come up with facile (not facetious) ways to undermine someone pushing for an anti-Trump protest.

Yes, because someone who makes 7 million a year would be hurt by losing their job. He’s got enough money to be set for life.

He has a lot. The people who are most affected to not. And he has some kinship with them. Thus he should stand up for them.

Maybe not the way Monty describes, but he does have an obligation. This selfish shit is why Trump is president, and is what is wrong with him.

Every single bad thing about Trump boils down to him being so incredibly selfish, but society not punishing him for it.

I do not understand this — apart from the fact that wars and drone killings impact a person more than anything Trump has done so far; presumably those muslims affected in the Super Bowl have either been affected or have friends and family affected by those wars and murders. They are not a separate group: Good Pitiful Muslims > Foreign Muslims to be ignored.
This hysteria is getting repulsive even for the rest of us who think Trumpo is an idiot.

Funny that you should say that, because Trump is one of the most unselfish people that exists. I would probably place Trump above Mother Theresa, in terms of kindness and the good that he will do for his country.

He put himself out there, knowing that he and his family would be relentlessly and viciously attacked by the degenerate left and the fake liberal media, but that didn’t stop him from doing what he had to do, because he knows the stakes and how important it was to turn the country around again, and take it back from the morally bankrupt and corrupt scoundrels on the left.

So what the fuck Woodie Guthrie song did Lady Gaga Play?

Well, the Falcons had the choke of the ages…

This Land is Your Land

The title has been changed to: This Land is My Land.

:dubious: To be precise, Trump has been attacked by a lot of Republicans and other conservatives as well. Lindsey Graham called him a “jackass”, Karl Rove called him a “complete moron”, Marco Rubio called him a “con artist” who’s been “sticking it to working people” his entire career, Ted Cruz called him a “pathological liar” and “narcissist at a level that I don’t think this country has ever seen”. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to conservative critiques of Trump.

Moreover, his career as a public figure is neither new nor self-sacrificing. He’s been “putting himself out there” as an entertainment celebrity for decades, with people mocking his vulgarity and greed and bumptiousness all along, because he wants the money and the attention and the illusion of being generally admired. He’s still putting himself out there for the money and the attention and the illusion of being generally admired.

And remember, up until the 2012 elections Trump had donated significantly more money to Democratic candidates than to Republican ones. He’s not really some die-hard conservative crusader sworn to vanquish the liberals. He’s playing that part because he realized that the right-wingers pining for a die-hard conservative crusader were the only ones who would buy his bullshit.

I agree that Trump basically had everybody against him, not just liberals.

The Democrats were naturally against him.

The Republican establishment was against him

The entire MSM was against him.

Hell, most of the planet was probably against him, but my man still pulled it off. I am very proud to be an American.

  1. Mother Theresa didn’t do shit for this country.
  2. You don’t think the media is actually liberal? Just faking it?
  3. You’re not concerned that Trump is giving a whole lot of power to morally bankrupt and corrupt scoundrels on the right?
  1. Yes I know. Perhaps it was poorly worded on my part. What I mean is that Trump’s contribution to the entire world and to civilization, not just the US, will be more significant than Mother Theresa’s.

  2. Yes I do think and I do know that the media is liberal, very liberal, and that they push fake news and that they are no longer reliable sources where sane people should get any news or information from. This past election season revealed an awful lot about the media, and it wasn’t pretty.

  3. When Trump or the administration does something that I disagree with, then I will have no problems with stating that. So far, in the short time that he’s been in office, I haven’t seen anything yet that has given me pause.

Well, a narcissistic unprincipled show-biz con artist can accomplish a great deal, if only he’s narcissistic and unprincipled enough. Trump has proved himself equal to that challenge.