Johnny may be there to back you up. There’s a 1/3 chance.
Oh I get the idea behind it, but it seems stupid that the other wolf card would even be on the table to be picked from. Of course the other wolf is un picked…that is why you get to pick one of the unused at all. It seems like it nullifies any power you woould’ve had otherwise.
But if that’s how it is, then that’s how it is. I just want to be sure that that’s ow it is.
I hadn’t worked out what story I’d try and sell. It would have been a very hard sell, but I wanted to slow play where the other wolf was. If I accused somebody else, they would know I was lying and I’d never get thier vote. But I didn’t want to accuse anybody who waffled and might side with me.
I’m wondering if Biotop and Hooker aren’t the wolves. Biotop pretended to be the Troublemaker, and waited for Hooker before giving the reveal of the switch to me. If so, I’m still a Mason.
It could work.
The abilities that pick from the center (drunk, wolf, possibly seer) pick from those same tokens. The narrator can’t split out the wolf token when the wolf is picking because the narrator can be playing too.
I, myself, am completely unaware of this vendetta. She did go after me in one of the Cuba games, but was completely right in doing so.
Yeah, I’m still in favor of killing Inner Stickler and letting him shoot Biotop.
I seem to remember reading in one of the watch threads you were…and I quote “scummy scum scum”…then of course Johnny B’s game where she vig killed you…and I might be imagining other times just to feed my own narrative that makes me laugh…
Fair enough. Didn’t realize narrator could play too in the tabletop game. Still would like a clarification about this game tho.
Well, that’s easy to understand. Going back over my newbie posts, I did come off as “scummy scum scum”. I just hope I’m improving.
I’m trying to compile a list of reasons to believe biotop and a list of reasons not to believe him. If someone could help with the list of reasons to believe, that would be helpful.
Reasons not to believe biotop:
(1) His counterclaim of troublemaker is passive.
(2) He claims to have lied about his actions in response to seeing someone else (me) lie about his role’s actions*
(3) The state of the game before Biotop announced his lie had HookerChemical as one of the prime suspects as a wolf.
(4) Biotop’s lack of firm confirmedness was also a topic of discussion at the time. If Inner Stickler chose one of snfaulker, Biotop and HookerChemical, that would most likely lead to a village win.
(5) The circumstances of Biotops amended claim completely changes the endgame. If Biotop’s revised switch made no difference, I would be inclined to believe him. But the result completely changes who we should target. That looks like design and not ‘coincidence.’
(6) HookerChemical trusted Biotop extremely quickly. Biotop has lied already, there is little reason to think he wouldn’t lie again.
(7) HookerChemical is conveniently a lone wolf.
(8) And of course the role peek is… wolf.
- I feel an inconsistency here. Inconsistency isn’t necessarily bad, but I still don’t like it. If Biotop was aware of the benefit of lying about his role to game information, then he should have also been aware of the benefit of letting my fake claim ride.
Assuming that’s who he is planning on hunting…
Yep, but I can’t do any more than lobby a suggestion, and I’m not going to sweat reiterating my case yet again.
My feeling was that at the time, we were looking toward an Inner Stickler lynch with a shortlist of me, snfaulkner, and Johnny Bravo for the hunter kill if IS was really the hunter. At the time, I thought I was the wolf and was fairly comfortable with that end game. It wasn’t a lock, but the odds weren’t bad considering my “draw.”
I miss the first 24 hours hours and am called out for being away so long, but I wait 16 hours to reveal the implications of Biotop’s change, and I’m too quick to trust? I didn’t immediately claim wolf because I thought he might be trying to flush wolves like you in the early game, but he hasn’t recanted his claim since mine and I believe it’s legit now.
I think the strongest argument that he is the troublemaker is that he made a counterclaim against your claim of troublemaker. That seems extremely risky for a wolf, given that there was an unclaimed villager and insomniac at the time. Neither of those are easily confirmed, just like troublemaker, and wouldn’t have had the issue of counterclaiming.
Inner Stickler, Enlighten us on who you wanna hunt, should we decide to kill you…
(does anyone else think this seems like a really odd thing to ask somebody?)
You should be off the list now. I was the only wolf and that role is now in the possession of Prof. P. The other operating theory is that Biotop and I were both wolves. In this scenario, you are not a wolf either. It’s become a stretch to say that an Inner Stickler kill makes any sense either.
Full moon comes on Christmas night.
It is the only kill that makes sense for town, because there’s no downside so long as Inner Stickler makes a logical choice for his own vote.
And the only reason he wouldn’t do that is if he were a wolf, and if he’s a wolf then it doesn’t matter anyway because we voted for him and he’s dead now.
It’s not the time you took but the posting you made. I think if you were really a singleton wolf you would have at least stuck to your initial claim with an actual post. Waiting and saying nothing is meaningless.
Troublemaker isn’t a hard claim for a wolf to defend. I agree that the counter is a good defense. But the statements by prof p mitigate that somewhat. I ask the confirmed town. Did you have an inkling about what prof p was hinting at? It was obvious to me. But I knew what was what already.
Like this?
I was cautious about committing to my claim because I suspected Biotop was out to bait me. The posts overnight gave me enough comfort to claim. It was hardly a slam-dunk, but if it was legit, I would lose by not claiming.