Please Do Not Feed The Trolls!

Cannupa wan nica u pelo. Tanyan yuza yo! Ognas mayagna yekilo he wakanyan iwayelo ognas mayagna yekilo! :frowning:

As I said, ignore them, threads and posts.

Phaedrus-
As I can see from reading this thread-your own board members seem to have no intention of going along with you saying that we should just be ignored. As a matter of fact, you seem to be blamed for some of this…

Again, I am here to talk, post, debate, what have you.

Again, kisses Phaedrus and see you around the boards!!! I so look forward to it! :slight_smile:


Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven.Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you Matthew 5:11-12

As I said, ignore them, threads and posts.

kerux said this on the LBMB on 01-01-2000 at 7:53 pm, on a thread entitled, “enough is enough!”:

On this thread, on 01-02-2000 at 3:18 pm he stated:

:slight_smile:

kerux, I welcome you. I’ve read quite a bit from the LBMB but have never posted there; despite my atheism I’ve grown (inexplicably) fond of Adam. Welcome to the Straight Dope.

Kerux, Nishi, please stay as long as you want. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who is willing to get involved in bona fide discussions is welcome.

Phaedrus, I’ve dealt with conservative Christians of various sorts as long as you have (I’ve taught at an evangelical college, for instance), and while I strongly disagree with most of the religious-right ideology and agenda which is for the most part accepted fairly uncritically on the LBMB, people visiting us from there still deserve to be regarded as individuals, rather than as a group.

If not, then in the name of ‘protecting’ ourselves from them, we would become what we despise. That won’t change what you do, I’m sure, but I’m having none of it.

So welcome, kerux, Nishi, Roxy, Vic, MikeM, and whoever else. You’ll find it challenging (let me tell you, it takes a lot more work to argue your side of a debate when you’re in the minority - speaking from recent experience on the LBMB!) but once the spamming fades into the past and tempers cool, I think you’ll find that people here, for the most part, argue forcefully but cleanly.

RTFirefly: Thank you for your post. You have made me reconsider. You spoke the truth in love and I appreciate that. I am wrong for lumping them all together and I admit that. I am a little edgy though, it makes me feel like there is a wasp in the room, I can hear it but I cannot see it. I would prefer that these “Soldiers of the Lord” show some self-restraint and self-control. If they wish to win my respect they could wait a week and come back. That wouldn’t hurt anything I I think many would have more respect for them if they did.

“Those that WAIT upon the Lord will renew their strength and raise up as eagles (my paraphrase)”

Thank you again, I spoke from past hurts by that crowd and “rushed” to judge them. I was wrong.
Yours,

Phaedrus

I have been reading alot of the posting going on between this board and the LBMB and trying to figure out why all of this “mess”(for lack of a better word) was even started. I for one have no problem debating with people who hold different beliefs than I. You can never truly know someone unless you know what they believe and why. I do, however, have a problem with someone who would tell me to wait to express my views in order to “win” their respect. Respect is not won, it is earned. If people would take a little more time listening and less time antagonizing they might accidentally learn something they didn’t know before. Just my opinion though. I personally enjoy learning about others beliefs, don’t know whether or not I would be considered a fundie,but that is neither here nor there. I love the Lord and have a great deal of faith – but some should know by now that you can not force someone to believe – either they do or they don’t – no arguements. Look forward to talking with you guys.

Melissa


And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,justified in the Spirit,seen of angels,preached unto the Gentiles,believed on in the world, received up into glory. --1 Timothy 3:16

Phaedrus-
Just relax yourself-ok? I am not here to anger anyone. so, as for waiting-why? i am enjoying reading some of the boards and might even respond on the thread about Men’s Careers. :slight_smile:

firefly-
I thank you for your kindness and your welcome to the boards. I would venture to say that I do not consider myself a Conservative Christian, I am a 35 year old born again catholic from NY-not a fundamentalist-but, I guess that all depends on your definition of conservative. I do consider myself a strong Jesus following Christian-so, again, i guess it depends on your definition.

Again, I thank you for your welcome! See you on the boards!


Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven.Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you Matthew 5:11-12

Considering the source of that quote, I’m having some difficulty in restraining myself from laughing my ass off.

Oh, the irony! Oh, the hypocricy! Oh, my sides! :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:


A seminar on time travel will be held two weeks ago.

The minute I posted that at the LBBB, I knew that someone here would find it and post it and make me look hypocritical, I’m surprised it took so long.

First off, I would hope that you would think the best of people and would assume that you did not quite understand my post on the LBBB, and that I was, in fact, honest in what I had posted here.

But, in case youre not that type of person, let me give you The Rest of the Story… does his best Paul Harvey impersonation :wink:

After I realized how what I had said sounded, I went to add on to my comment. However, in case you hadn’t noticed, the thead was closed. I think that Mike was closing the thread after he posted his little ditty, and I just snuck my comment in. I didn’t get a chance to finish my thought. Since the comment was directed at Mike, I did send him an e-mail to tell him the rest of what I thought.

There you are, take it as you may. I feel sincerely sorry for the fact that I might have caused people to doubt my sincerity, and more importantly my honesty.


“7But all these things that might have helped me, I call them all nothing, because of Christ. 8Yes, I call them all nothing, because to know Christ Jesus my Lord is much better. It is for his sake that I have given them all up and call them just dirt.”
Phil. 3:6-8

Phaedrus:

Thanks for living down to my expectations, both by not answering my question and by being rude to our well-meaning new members.

Your actions demonstrate that you haven’t changed from your ``Flat Earth’’ period and don’t merit any further attention.

Up, up and away!

Yes, Clark, and thank YOU for living down to mine. I explained the predicament your question put me in, evidently that wasn’t good enough for you.

I say to you as I said to WallyM7,“I operate under the same rules as you do. I post what I will, to whom I will, as I see fit under MY subjective opinion.”

You are looking to assign blame which is, many times, a strong indication that a person is tied exclusively to the Ego. Not that I mind, of course, most of us are.

However tied to it you are I don’t think you are stupid enough not to know the position you put me in by asking the question. You knew it full well and did it deliberately.

I think I made it very clear that others have accepted the blame for this mess, evidently you wish to blame me, probably in toto.
:::::shrug, Oh well::::::

Just want to know Clark, ever have any sexual thoughts about your mother? Have you stopped beating your significant other? When will you grow up?
Interestingly, the person who this reflects the worst on is only vaguely interested in my actions or lack of them. People like you ruin the board for others, I feel sorry for you.

Here trolly, trolly, want some candy? here trolly trolly? Come on boy, come an get it…come on, come on… Want some peanuts? Popcorn? Old shoe leather?

Oh and Shann…, er I mean Clark, you think you are pretty sneaky with your pseudonym don’t you? Not sneaky enough. I know who you are and how to find you if I were to desire, I don’t. This is not a threat, I just want you to know that you are not as clever as you think you are.

I thought I’d add some background info for the newcomers here.

Overall, it helps to think of the Straight Dope Message Board as organized like a school. Comments on Cecil’s Columns is the advanced class, where sober participants discuss the works of the illustrious Cecil Adams (we know him as “Unca Cece”) . The regular class is General Questions, where questions with finite answers are addressed. MPSIMS is the lunchroom, for casual interactions. Comments on Mailbag Answers is the student newspaper. About This Message Board is the intercom.

Originally there was no Great Debates message board. But we quickly found out that some students were too fidgety for General Questions, so this forum was created to channel their excess energy. Think of Great Debates as a sort of intellectual recess–a place where you can yell and skip and sometimes spin around until you fall down from dizziness and exhaustion. You’ll find less formal instruction here than in the more structured forums, but on the other hand, some of life’s most important lessons are learned on the playground. Like all schools, some of the students display higher levels of maturity than others. And, unfortunately, some of the ideals promoted earlier in this thread, which we all agree with, have, in the past, been realized somewhat more in theory than in practice.

Expect occasional culture shock–it may be a little jarring to find out that some references to “the book of knowledge” by "the master"are talking about The Straight Dope by Unca Cece, but, hey, this is his web site, we’re his fans, and it probably doesn’t hurt to throw in occasional compliments about his brilliant columns or Ed Zotti’s flawless editing of same, in case they are reading this.

I personally think that the more people, with varying opinions, the better. Remember, you are not just addressing the individual persons who post to a particular thread–they may be the least important people involved–since your words are also being read by many other people who review the thread without posting.

[Moderator Hat: ON]

Phaedrus said:

Have you forgotten that this is the Great Debates area, not the Pit? Cool it or take it there.


David B, SDMB Great Debates Moderator

[Moderator Hat: OFF]

What about sexual thoughts about his father? Why assume he’s straight? :slight_smile:

David B: Cool it? I watched you ignore WallyM7’s use of the word f**k in this thread. Yet I ask a rhetorical question and get told to cool it? I am confused here. I wasn’t implying that Clark had done those things, I was making an example of the type of question that was asked of me. How is this an infraction of the rules? I expect a reasonable answer here to a reasonable question.

Phaedrus, I am not nor have I ever been Clark. Cool it. I have never posted under another name, nor do I intend to. I would not have to ask who squealed, either. :slight_smile:

Gaudere: I have no reason to doubt that you aren’t Clark, I find it interesting though that you thought I meant you. Hmmm. I see that you were right all along about welcoming the newbies. I am sensitive towards them, they can be vicious but that doesn’t mean I should lump them into a category. I was wrong.

Got any milk to go with humble pie?

[timid smile]