I assume they are going to be in conflict because they are both assholes.
I guess the metaphorical “gap” was what neither one could manage alone: life.
I don’t think hating the hive makes Manousos an asshole. It’s a perfectly reasonable stance a good decent might man might take.
I started a bit late on this show but I’m caught up now. My mind keeps wondering about the science details of the virus, but it really doesn’t seem like it’s that kind of show. It’s not like Andy Weir is writing it
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At the end, I wasn’t sure whether he was actually waving for help from the helicopter, or just weakly trying to block the sun’s glare. It’s probably ambiguous enough that the Plurbs can claim they thought he was waving, or that they weren’t sure, like when they brought Carol the grenade.
That’s my sense as well. The real question is, does the imperative against interfering with agency apply to someone who is unconscious? If the show wanted to really give us a twist, they’d have taken his stem cells while he was unconscious and the next time we see him he’s one of them.
But that probably won’t happen. Because what would be the point in that? I don’t see this being an “anyone can die (or be turned)” kind of show.
More likely, we find out that one of the other survivors has elected to join Them.
I’m enjoying this show. Gilligan has a way of finding beauty in both the commonplace and the exotic. It looks gorgeous.
I have a feeling the science and social minutiae won’t ultimately stand up to very detailed study. That’s okay, I’m happy to suspend belief. There are not very many characters, but at least they are interesting.
I did think Manousos was waving. Given his delirium, what he intended by this is vague. Presumably he will recover and be transported to New Mexico, but who knows? His attempt to cauterize his wounds from the chunga tree did not seem likely to be effective.
Singing about Georgia in the O’Keeffe museum might be obvious, but it made me laugh slightly, as did her version of Nelly (Hot in Herre).
You can take the boy out of the church, but you can’t take the church out of the boy. I mean, I ASSUME he’s a staunch Catholic.
I did not ask for tepid. I did not ask for lukewarm. I did not even ask for cold. I asked for ice cold.
Tea. Earl Grey. Ice Cold.
They are quick procurers of stuff, yet it’s a trade-off to find some freon or get it there fast.
Manuosos was likely being watched by one or more or more drones at 40,000 feet (though perhaps when things were looking really bad), an Apache helicopter (I’ve still yet to believe not everyone can play Army Ranger and repel as a medic), and shortly there it is.
It’s clear that the boundaries of what the Plurbs do are not set. Even Fabian’s reassurance that ‘our opinion of you have not changed’ must have been somewhat reassuring to Carol and meant to be.
Perhaps the Plurbs “like” these two. The woman who tees off into office windows yet crumbles into Zosia’s arms when she returns. The guy shirking any help, indeed spewing hatred, at them as he treks from middle South America to New Mexico. They are interesting.
Manu needs his HAM, and having thought on it, if he can get a bunch of parts, his first kit was likely homemade. He needs to build a short-wave antenna that likely has some good broadcast ability as well if this signal, whether a satellite or a series of terrestrial, is to be monitored.
ETA: Perhaps one of those handset HAM’s (no idea what their capabilities are yet more likely to be found in Best Buy) might allow some covert jamming and manipulation of this signal.
It will be interesting once he discovers he was not initially known by the Plurbs..
Honestly I do see either as assholes or even misanthropic.
Flawed. Socially challenged in life during the before time? Sure. Baseline not happy people as their norms? Yeah. But not mean or contemptuous of humanity in general (albeit Carol did not think well of her fans).
Assuming Zosia is pregnant. Sperm … fallen … from Diabate and Carol’s egg? So stem cells of a new individual who could likely be immune if immunity is genetic but only a half match to either of them. What is their perspective on that embryo, maybe fetus by now, being protected from harm and having to consent to any procedure? I mean if an apple can’t be touched? Or is it her/their body her/their choice? Up to when?
I didn’t notice a “baby bump” on Zosia and, having read several recaps of the episode, neither did the writers of those, because none suggested she was pregnant.
The way they shot it definitely seems to emphasize the slightly odd shape of her belly. It immediately jumped out at me, and I doubt it was an accident or that the photographer didn’t notice it. I suppose it’s possible that’s just how the actress looks but I do think they’re trying to drop the hint that she’s pregnant.
And Carol’s frozen eggs is a bit of a Checkov’s gun. So it adds up.
That said, she shouldn’t be showing that much at 4-6 weeks anyway, right?
I personally am not convinced that the apparent bulge is the character being pregnant. (I’d consider the actor being pregnant but not the character as less unlikely honestly, or just a funky angle on a fit woman) but I do think the constraints of their “biological imperatives” make considering that possibility interesting? It is a hypothetical. For the hypothetical assume those speculations are on point.
Except for Laxmi’s son, we haven’t seen any children among the Joined. I am curious how young a child needs to be to be able to join. Are newborns joined? If so, that makes it easier to understand what their needs are.
The first episode had a baby seizing during the Joining (we didn’t actually see it, but Carol kept it’s carrier from falling) and those 2 kids who told Carol exactly where her spare key was before they drove away. And here’s another individual known as Carol.
Carol mentioned her eggs, which makes them Chekhov’s eggs and Soap Opera material. I don’t see any biological hindrance with the Plurbs procreating amongst themselves, if they can be pregnant and go full term (that might be an experiment). I reckon to be successful, this virus doesn’t muck too much with physiology.
Ninja’d by the Chekhov gun thing, yet I did suggest her shape and the rather long side-shot of her meant something. 5 weeks, fetus is the size of a grape, yet the body prepares itself with some bloating. And the Plurbs would try and procreate ASAP.
ETA: It has not been explained how the Plurbs really think they have a shot that will Plurb you. If they have it and are sure of it, there might be a couple takers. Yet they’re far away.
There’s no reason I can see to make that assumption that they’re procreating in general, especially if they’re going to starve. I figured it was a Carol-specific pregnancy because they’re trying to get a sample of her DNA (indirectly, through her offspring) so they can customize a method to assimilate her. It’d probably be easier to get a similar offspring from Mr. Diabate since he’s probably trying to get 5 women per day pregnant.
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You’d think they’d want to sort out the food situation first.
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Even if they did, and they felt avoiding a population bottleneck in terms of births was worth it, you’d think they’d realize Zosia was a “special” appendage and should be maintained in “pristine” condition to the extent possible.
Or it could have just been a joke complaining about her nads freezing in the ice hotel.
Procreation as a general thing is going to be a low number item while the population naturally falls off to a size that can be sustained long enough for the virus to “bloom.” Using the contact person with one of the few unjoined, let alone one of the only two displeased at events unjoined, as a body to procreate, yeah, why? And for using Carol’s egg(s) to create a means to cure Carol? They have literally billions of other female bodies to choose from. Why choose so stupidly?
A new individual zygote or baby would not be a source of Carol stem cells. I think it is an interesting question about when they’d consider it as much a life as an insect or plant is such that they couldn’t harvest stem cells from it, vs being part of its carrier’s body who could give it up with consent willingly. But I do not think this show will answer the question.
The actress is a thin fit person playing someone recovering from a life threatening episode. She is holding herself in low tone slouched lordotic position rather than her typical erect back straight tight belly posture. As the character would be doing, still weak in recovery. Maybe a bit exaggerated.
I really don’t think it is more than that.