Well I assume that they were in contact with people from the DOD. Once they knew the location of the secret base, it’s kinda moot to hold the layout back from them. Besides, I think Mason said that CTU people were gonna be in charge. If the DOD wasn’t gonna argue with that, why hold back the schematics?
Well I don’t remember seeing the cop get killed, but I though they would have killed him. Maybe they will in the next episode-or they might leavehim for dead when he’s only injured if they’re in a rush. It doesn’t make sense to kidnap him too. I think they are gonna use Kim to get Jack to cooperate, and try to get Alexis back while killing Jack and Kim, rather than giving them up.
As for the bomb defusing stuff, remeber that the Drazens escaped through sewer tunnels. It’s likely that it would be impossible to tell where they came out once they get into the sewer system. Their best bet is to follow them. It doesn’t matter anyway because they’ve gotten away.
Is there really another mole in CTU? it doesn’t seem like there have been any problems with security lately.
BTW, Victor Drazen’s accent really is so bad that it’s good. I love listening to him talk…he sounds so…evil.
I’m pretty sure I saw Red-Haired Cop in the previews. The driver was either killed in the crash (or knocked out), or someone from the van killed him.
I have no idea why they would take him too, but I’m positive I saw him. I’ll have to rewind my tape and check.
I think there has to still be a mole at CTU. How else would they (the bad guys) know Kim was on the move, and where she would be? Whoever took her knew she was somewhere between the police station and CTU.
I would have sworn the red-haired cop (RHC) was gut-shot by the kidnapper on the drivers side when he (RHC) was going for his gun. And yeah, I saw that coming, too, but it was still good.
As for who’s the Mole, I don’t think it’s Tony for the sole reason that he shot the guy that was trying to shoot Terri. You know, it could be someone that we’ve never been shown, since there are plenty of people at CTU and any one of them could be bad (of course it won’t though, so I’m going with Mason.)
Maybe Lou Diamond Phillips’s character isn’t really dead??? I mean, wouldn’t he have been wearing a flak jacket? They were, after all, in a battle situation, right? Even underground jail wardens must have flak jackets handy, right?
If the bad guys were monitoring her the whole way, why didn’t they pick her up at Rick’s? Or come and bail her out of jail? (either one seems much easier thing than waiting for the police to figure out who she was, decide to let her go, & transport her to the CTU (btw, how did they know which route the cops would take to get her there? did they happen to buy a cop in that one station on the off chance that Kim might accidentally be arrested while they were trying to kill her? Do their plans rely on far too many coincidences or is it me?))
3 hours left. I do want to see how it ends - but I’m getting more out of nitpicking than I am out of becoming involved in the show.
That’s why I think there’s a mole at CTU. When she was at Rick’s they didn’t know where she was. After they found out she was at the police station, they moved fast to kidnap her again. Although it would have made more sense to say, “Oh, yeah, we’ll come and get her” and just kidnap her from there. (But of course not as action-packed)
I think this speaks to the “CTU mole” theory. They didn’t know where Kim was, at Rick’s or in jail, until the cop called the number she gave him. Either that call or Kim’s call to her mom (I assumed she was given that number by the cop, who received it from CTU) was tapped…most likely the former. Or the mole’s the one who took the cop’s call, or was told about the call by the person who took the call. This seems to rule out Chappelle, since he’s perpetually unavailable, and I’ve backed a bit off my guess of Mason–but I don’t really know who else it could be. Milo? No way it’s Nina or Tony without completely shredding the show’s credibility.
Yes, there HAS to be a mole at CTU. They didn’t know where Kim was, but once they found out, Bam!, she’s kidnapped again.
I think it will end up being either Nina or Tony. One of those two HAS to be a mole.
My gut feeling (not a spoiler, just my own speculation):
It’s Nina. She will end up, in the last epsiode, dying heroically. Perhaps taking a bullet for Jack? Or Kim or Terri?
Would Nina take a bullet for her former lover’s wife or child?
Duh…forgot how they were keeping tabs on Kim. Ok, so there is a mole. I really don’t think the mole is Nina or Tony. If it was Tony, he could have conveniently showed up late and let Teri get killed. It doesn’t make much sense. As for Nina, if she’s a mole, she has to know by now that her involvement means that Jack and family could die. That means that she either really wants to see them dead, or she’s getting paid a whole lot of money to act concerned. She seems to be genuinely worried about Jack.
I think the mole is most likely Milo, or someone we’ve seen very little of. I suppose it could be Chapelle or Mason.
The mole is probably Chapelle. Haven’t you wondered why he was unavailable for that most crucial half-hour? My guess is that he was stalling, thinking that Mason didn’t have the balls to send a team in without his approval. And he sure hit the roof when Mason told him that he had done it.
I don’t think it’s Mason, for the simple reaso that he didn’t have to send that team in - Chapelle had given him a perfectly good reason not to - but did it anyway. I think Mason is just a politically-driven little weasel who would stab anyone in the back to get ahead, but he’s not a spy.
The outside possibility is Nina. She has the motive - she could have ‘turned’ after being spurned by Jack. And she did leave the safe house against Jack’s orders. But that doesn’t explain why the bad guys told Jack to shoot her. Maybe because they felt she was no longer useful. But I think the Nina angle is very unlikely. She’s just done too many things to help Jack.
The other possibility is that there are no more moles in CTU, but the phones were bugged by the Mandible and it hasn’t been discovered yet.
The red-headed cop WAS shot. I’m sure of it. He was lying in the car, trying to pull his gun when a bad guy shot him with a silenced pistol. But he could have been wearing a flak vest, so just because he was shot doesn’t mean he is dead.
Lou Diamond Phillips, however, is deader’n a doorknail. They even showed him lying face up on the ground with his eyes open and blood running down the side of his face. He’s an ex-warden.
I actually thought they did pretty good to keep the consistency and plausibility high in this episode. It all made sense - Kim was grabbed after she contacted CTU. The booby-trap in the sewer was a good way to stop the team. Jack is alive because they need him to get Alexis back.
I think you’re going to see Jack be reunited with his daughter, and then offer a trade to let her go free in exchange for Alexis. Then shenanigans will take place.
Isn’t the actor who plays Chapelle the same guy who played the creepy priest who had a thing for food and needy women in “The Sopranos”?
There has to be some tie-in with Palmer’s political backers (whom he has now disavowed) and Drazen. The money men might have been supporters of Drazen because it benefited them financially.
The mole has to be whoever talked to the cop. That person would be the one to know that Kim was one her way to CTU, and would have given the cop directions. An average cop wouldn’t have know how to get there, right? The mole would have said to go a certain way, and had that van waiting.
We never did see who he talked to when he finally called CTU. I guess it could be Chappelle. It has to be someone we’ve seen. I’d hate it if the mole turns out to be some totally unknown character; someone we’ve never seen. I still think a major character will die before midnight.
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I had almost forgotten that they wanted Jack to kill Nina. That makes me think even more she is the mole. They (the bad guys) wanted her gone.
I still haven’t watched my tape, but I swear I saw the red haired cop in the previews; he was with Jack. I’ll have to watch it again later, I’m getting ready to leave for work.
I just watched the tape again. The red-haired cop isn’t in the teaser for May 7. At the very end, Jack Bauer is shown holding a brown-haired curly-haired woman (I’ve never seen her on the show before, she is not the one who tried to kill one of the Drazen boys).
I’m pretty sure that the cop was killed during Kim’s kidnapping. They showed the cop going for his gun and then you heard several of those “squink” shots that bad guy’s guns make.
Still, wouldn’t it have been easier, meant the loss of much less personnel, been quicker and quieter (and also less likely to be discovered easily) if the mole had just said “Why don’t we come down to the precinct and pick her up.” They go, pick her up, and don’t wreck cars, don’t get involved in a shoot out, and are not instantly identified as a potential problem? (“What’s taking so long to get Kim here?” “Maybe traffic is bad” v. “Why isn’t Kim here yet?” “There was a shootout on 85th with guys in masks who pulled away a screaming blonde girl. Think maybe the terrorists are involved?”) And how lucky is it that the mole just happened to answer the phone when the cop called?
That was a different set of bad guys though. & they’re all dead now.
That’s exactly what I said a few posts back. That wouldn’t have been as exciting for us, though! No cliffhanger ending. You think Jack would figure out by now, “Gee, it’s five minutes before the hour, something bad always happens to me then.”
The loss of personnel was all on the good guys’ side, it looks like. Apparently, just the two cops are toast.
I dunno, I’m just speculating, anyway.
Who was it that called and wanted Jack to shoot Nina, what 12 hours ago? I can hardly remember what happened back then. Was that Gaines?
Gaines wanted Nina killed. But he’s dead. Along with just about everybody from the first set of bad guys, except for the phony photographer who tried to kill Palmer earlier in the day.
He’s still lurking. Someone’s got to try to kill Palmer again in the next three hours.
I think that Palmer will live because Fox would take a lot of heat for killing him off.
