Pre-emptive strike against stupid Hillary bashers

Ya mean like this?

I get the feeling I’m supposed to interpret that as somehow rather extreme. I don’t. Do you? Seems altogether rather pedestrian and, well, normal.

Depends on how you define “clinch”-- and that’s why I said “wrapped up”. He didn’t have all the delegates needed until June, but it was very clear he had the nomination before then. He clobbered Brown in NY in April, and didn’t lose a primary after that.

What has she got to loose? It’s like a boxer in the 15th round who’s down on points - why not swing for the fences?

It depends on if you think that all she cares about is her own chance at the this Presidency, or the good of the country. If the latter then she is obligated to swing in ways that do indeed specifiy why she is so great and demonstrate that by showing how well she is able to diminish McCain. If that latter case then she needs to very careful to stay away from statements that provoke divisiveness among Democrats. If the former she still doesn’t want to do anything that kills her chance to run again or (once small, now vanishingly small) chance to be tapped for VP.

Well, more like a boxer whose down on points going into the 15th round who insists that only points earned in rounds that end with the number 2, 5, 7 or 9 should count…

I think Sen Clinton should pull a Joe Biden and plagiarize her concession speech from Toothless Dan Schorr. (audio 2 mins 45 secs)

A concession speech? Why would she need a concession speech, you only do those when you…hey, what are trying to suggest here?!

Oh yes you’re right, forgive me Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota. Do your best to add a little more clam to Barack’s chowder.

Isn’t it amazing how somebody who’s “already lost” can still inspire as much hatred from the supporters of somebody who’s “already moved on to the next round” as she did before that was the case? Either it isn’t the case after all, or the hatred is childish and irrational and Pitworthy.

Since you didn’t deign to quote, I’ll answer on my own behalf: Hillary Clinton is a cunt. Some of us have believed this since before 1992 irrespective of Sen Obama’s rampant modern-day success. And because it seems to be the fulcrum of your argument I’m not an Obama supporter; he hasn’t a snowball’s chance in Hell of being elected.

The only way Sen Clinton could make her RFK statement any worse is if she got this from The Guardian and wore it on a t-shirt.

:dubious: Really? You’re gonna go with that?

THESE SICK SHITS ARE TRYING TO BLAME OBAMA FOR CLINTON’S FUCKUP!

I kid you not. Two of her flying monkeys hit the talking heads circuit today and said that Obama’s campaign is to blame for the negative reactions so many people had to Hillary’s idiotic comment. The unbelievable gall of these people. Jesus.

Terry McAuliffe, having failed in his job as Chief Fundraiser and Bottle Washer, told an incredulous Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday that Obama didn’t mollify the Wicked Witch enough, thereby encouraging and enabling the outcry that ensued. When asked whether she should have apologized to the Obamas for her assassination reference, he flatly said no.

McAuliffe’s bobble head doll, Howard Wolfson, said basically the same thing to Bob Schieffer, on Face the Nation, who had to ask for clarification two or three times because of how unbelievable this latest talking point comes across. That means they conspired to produce this crap. What idiots. No wonder they had no plans for anything beyond February 4.

Godamighty, just when you think they can’t sink any lower, they stretch space and time like a massive black hole eating a planet. Holy fucking cow. And while I’m at it, I’d like to appeal to Democrats who are so puffy about this — oh we mustn’t say anything to upset Hillary! — please grow a fucking pair. Sheesh.

Already have, thanks. Brass has become more expensive, as well. The clanking noise when I walk makes stalking difficult, and sheep are skittish.

Can’t say I blame them for looking for enemy action as an explanation, but I don’t think it holds. This is one of those things that goes into the category of One Of Those Things. Some are manufactured, some derive from genuine political blunders, and then there is this third category, inexplicable and widespread public reaction.

For instance: the “flip-flop” meme attached to Kerry (remember the Pubbie convention, all those people waving zories in the air and chanting “Flip-flop! Flip-flop!”). Now that’s of the “manufactured” variety, made up out of whole cloth by malicious elves.

Then there’s “I was for it before I was against it”, that’s variety two, the plain old fashioned poochscrew.

But there’s the third variety, things that just seem to happen without any clear causation. Now, I’m looking at this from the more or less sane perspective, that HRC didn’t say anything that extreme, but somehow it hit a spark and…kerblooey! The crucial feature of the third variety is that it is about nothing in particular, and leaves the observer scratching his head and wondering “What the bleeding hell set that off?”

And there is no answer, sometimes there are massive ripples through the popular mind that seem to just plain happen. And nobody controls that, though Lord knows they wish they could. Its the people, God bless 'em, they are what make democracy so…interesting!

So sure they went looking for conspiracy. They don’t appreciate that sometimes a bomb lands that wasn’t thrown.

Numerically that may have been true but Bill Clinton’s nomination was a foregone conclusion once his main rival, Paul Tsongas, dropped out. Jerry Brown did stay in the race until the end but his support was too weak to stop Clinton’s momentum.

As for Hillary, she’s like a team that’s three games out of first place with two games left that insists the race is not over.

But… but… but… it isn’t her fault, none of it’s her fault, it’s all our fault for everything that’s gone wrong in her inevitable march to the White House.

Get with the program, man.

That, of course, is your interpretation of the interview, including all the bells and whistles.

Wallace was doing his job, trying to get McAuliffe to say something that they could use as a sound bite.

Are you, Liberal, saying that Bill Burton, press secretary for Obama, didn’t put this out to the media? I think the Obama camp got it out within minutes/hours of the interview.

It wasn’t the Obama campaign that put it out, it was the NY Post. Drudge put the Post link on his front page and the story grw from there. Obama had nothing to do with it. He and his surrogates have tried to downplay it and defend her.

According to Tim Russert, the video was uploaded on YouTube where a reporter spotted it and put the story out. My guess is that Veracifier was the uploader since he gets the political stuff early and often and has the connections to notify the mainstream press. You could call him an Obama supporter, but he’s not a part of the campaign.

As far as McCauliffe goes, his refusal to acknowledge Michelle Obama’s suffering as she worries every day about her husband’s safety, and his summary dismissal of any notion of apologizing to her, and in general the whole Clinton camp’s utter and inexplicable cluelessness about African-American culture (see this video of Eugene Robinson’s mortified reaction) is really quite amazing. The Clintons have abandoned that whole community of people, who have been instrumental in helping them achieve their wealth and power. She actually led Obama among blacks in November, 2007 by a wide margin! And now she’s practically persona non grata even as she continues to spit on them by ignoring their concerns while whining about the non-issue of misogyny.

Good. Keep those things well oiled. Vigilance is required of free people.