Maybe there is enough time for a Castro-Castro meeting to open up Cuba. 
He wowed a lot of people who WANTED to be wowed.
There’s not much substance to Castro. He’s “mayor” of a city that’s actually run by a City Manager. The mayor of San Antonio has even fewer powers and responsibilities than the governor of Texas.
Let him get a real job where he has to run something before you put him on the national ticket.
Oh, good. Then he should get a lot of support from Texas R’s who supported Bush and Perry for Pres, right?
Unbelievable- you actually think you’ve zinged me.
I LIVE in Texas, remember? I already know the governor doesn’t really run the state. Bush didn’t, Perry doesn’t… oh, and Ann Richards didn’t, either.
Perry got almost ZERO support when he ran for President, and Bush won almost solely because of his famous name. Bush was a competent governor, but he never had to do much, and he didn’t. He had very few real accomplishments, and wouldn’t have gotten the GOP nomination if anyone better had been running.
Julian Castro has even fewer accomplishments than Bush or Perry had. But the Dems are so eager to embrace a high profile Latino candidate that they’re giving him a pass.
That was true in 2008 as well. Doesn’t seem to have translated to a Dem nomination though.
He’ll be older then McCain was. Biden won’t run.
Oh, please! The inauguration was just 2 months ago. Can we please have a year or two off from presidential politics?
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And you trust Gingrich?
No!
Julian Castro has even fewer accomplishments than “none”? If you’d been paying attention, Perry was doing well in the polls until he started opening his fat yap and opining opinions that made less sense than a hive of bees. His ZERO support was caused entirely by his own personal idiocy, not at all by his performance or lack thereof as Governor.
A party that ran (and won) with Quayle, and had the gall to run Palin, for VP will never have the standing to criticize the Dems for running an eloquent young mayor like Castro for VP, which is where I predict he will end up on the ticket.
Just thinking about the next presidential election this far out sends me into a blind rage. We should be actively trying to shorten the process.
Gingrich’s motives for saying anything ever are independent of their truth value.
Back in 2007 I wanted Al Gore to run with Obama as his VEEP. If that had happened, the Democrats would be set at the moment.
As a New Yorker, if Clinton and Cuomo square off in a primary, I’ll really be torn. Cuomo has been effective as governor, but that makes his experience limited. Clinton has earned her chops as Secretary of State in addition to her Senate stint.
There have been some rumblings about her health.
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BTW, if you’re doing an all inclusive list, then Al Gore should be on it even though he has strongly stated he’s not interested. And then there’s that California governor - nah.
You mention Tim Kaine, but I think that’s highly unlikely. If there’s going to be a candidate from Virginia, I’d think Mark Warner would be much more likely, and I’m actually kind of surprised he’s not on your list. Kaine was just elected to Senate, but Warner has been in since 2009, will almost certainly win reelection in 2014. Before that, he was a fairly popular governor from 2001-2005 as well. I seem to recall people wanting him to run for president in 2008, which he declined, and then having his name thrown in the hat as a potential VP candidate. Personally, I think if he ran, he’d be a heavy contender.
For your list, though I think HRC and Biden are early favorites, I don’t think either one would really stand up, and would be unlikely to win a national election. HRC is too polarizing, a big part of why she lost to Obama despite having a huge early lead. If she’s that polarizing inside the Democratic party, her potential support from independents will be even less, and she’ll ignite the base of the Republican party. Further, she’ll have to over come sexism. While Obama was able to overcome racism, I feel like sexism is ultimately going to be a bit more difficult to overcome. There’s also her age; she’ll be 69 by election day. And, of course, I think at least part of the reason the Republicans are pushing the Benghazi issue is because they want to stick it to her in 2016. I just can’t see her overcoming all of that.
As for Biden, age will be even more of an issue for him, he’ll be pushing 74 in 2016, which is probably enough by itself. But I also think his tendency to put his foot in his mouth doesn’t make him a strong presidential candidate once he’s under the spotlight. His viability will also strongly depend on Obama’s approval rating and popularity over the next couple of years. If Obama remains roughly where he is or higher, he may be viable, but I think he’ll have a hard time really capitalizing on whatever popularity Obama may have. However, if Obama drops at all, he’ll have the additional burden of overcoming that.
Beyond saying who pretty much can’t win and who might have the experience by then and the desire, it’s hard to say much else. We’re still more than 3 1/2 years from the next election, that’s an eternity, midterms are going to trump whatever we see right now, and then there’s still all the other random stuff domestically and internationally that could tip the scale.
I don’t see where Hillary is all that decisive. I think if you drew a Venn Diagram of the people that hate Obama and the people who hate Hillary, there’d be very little outside of the overlapping area. Even people who hate her freely admit that she’s very bright and hardworking and did a credible job as Secretary of State. There isn’t a Republican alive that could beat her. Just ask yourself- which states did Obama win that Hillary couldn’t? I can’t think of one. I do think there are some that Hillary can win that Obama couldn’t- perhaps Georgia and Arizona, maybe get back Indiana, maybe even Missouri.
I was one of the hardline Pro-Obama, Anti-Hillary folks in 2008 (don’t trust me, ask ElvisL1ves–we had a lot of acrimony going at the time) (all is forgiven!) and I’m a big Hillary supporter at this point. Her stint at SoS was first-rate, and he proved to me that she could administrate something, which she hadn’t before. Now, I think she and Bill really want to hit the running, have learned from their errors in being Pres., have an agenda, have ties with the Senate that Obama is still working on, have assessed their hardcore enemies and possible friends accurately, and are ready to kick ass and take names. I don’t necessarily like her any more than I ever did, but I’m ready to have her serve as POTUS.
That said, I think she needs to win the primaries, if only to have a viable backup choice or two, in the event that she needs to bail (at 69, there’s a fair mathematical of her dropping dead, or at least getting very ill) and there are some Young Turks in the Democratic party (basically everyone on the OP’s list except for Biden) who need to get better known nationally, and who can serve as her VP if they do well. I’m rooting for Julian Castro myself.
What does Gingrich have to gain by saying that Hillary Clinton is unbeatable?
A Hillary Clinton candidacy that can be beaten, perhaps?
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I think Clinton can most likely win. I think a lot of people forget how close she came in 2008. She wasn’t as fast on her feet as Obama and his team, but she’s not stupid and is not a slow learner.
Can she win the general? Probably. It depends on too much, but the Republicans don’t seem to be understanding the whole “inclusivity” thingie.
What I like is how none of these candidates make me cringe in horror. That isn’t always the case!
Mitt Romney “came close in 2008” too. So did John McCain in 2000 and Al Gore in 1988. Nominating the guy who lost the primary last time around hasn’t proven to be a winning campaign strategy for either party in recent decades.
If your argument is that she’s incompetent or disliked, how close she came is relevant. Obama got a big lead and held on. Clinton did not just fade away quietly.
And I was talking about who gets the nomination, as was clear in my post since I then went on to talk about the general. In the “who gets the nom” conversation, coming close the time before is a pretty good indicator that you have some appeal. See your list for examples.