Did anyone see this? I can’t believe Ping stayed but she seems to make for good TV. That was truly hideous–that dress with the ass hanging out and those weird hip thingies.
I thought for sure Jesus would go home for violating the spirit of the challenge and all that. The girl who went home with that blue dress had a pretty bad one but I thought his was worse. Hmm.
The winning dress was definitely cool–was he the guy who had the dyeing issues or was that someone else?
She definitely injects drama, so though I can’t see her staying much longer, it was still to soon to cut her loose.
Her dress looked like the model was wearing a towel, though I did like the enhanced booty. I would have preferred Jesus to go, but if you saw the Models show, the model who got stuck with him (there was lots of exchanging going on) was quite displeased.
Ping staying was a travesty! A travesty, I tell you! That… that THING was the most ogawful alleged garment I’ve ever seen. Ugly, ugly, ugly. IMHO they kept her there for the entertainment value only. “Do we want to see more of her work?” No, no, a thousand times no!
I was very impressed by what most of the designers were able to make! Except for Ping & Jesus, I thought they were all pretty good. The blue one that lost I didn’t think was too bad at first, and if she was going for denim she got it spot on, but when they showed it in the close-ups & Model’s show, it did look like a cowgirl dress, not upscale or cocktail at all. Ping’s was clearly the worst, poorly made, ugly and terrible fit, but I guess since she obviously has a different design aesthetic than the others, the judges want to see where she can go. Plus she was in the top last week, so because she is so bizarre, her look either works really well or fails really badly.
Still, a very impressive showing from all!
This should be a good season, it still seems fresh and exciting. Ping’s had some “serious ugly” going on and her model revealed she was nursing a blown knee, what a disaster.
I have netflixxed PR seasons 1-3, and now I am totally hooked on the show ( season 4 has Master Siriano I can’t wait!).
I enjoy the show largely on the basis that it’s a reality show with some actual, honest-to-goodness basis in reality. The contestants have to have actual talent, the judges have legitimate industry cred and the “host” (or whatever you’d like to call Tim Gunn) has - wonder of wonders - honestly helpful advice and criticism. But my beef with the show has always been that they seriously value design over construction. I absolutely knew that Ping was staying last night despite the completely ridiculous disaster she sent out on the runway because they think of her as an artist, so they’re willing to forgive how poorly made the dress was; whereas no matter how well you construct a dress, if they ever get around to pigeon-holing you as “just a seamstress” you’re toast.
I do appreciate that the show is looking for a great designer, but there really should be more of a downside to being a terrible sewer. I could go on that show and badly sew a potato sack. If it so happens that they liked my idea for a badly-sewn potato sack, that doesn’t make me a designer. Long story short, I think they give too many second and third chances to the “edgy” but inexperienced contestants while “auf wiedersehen”-ing the more professional ones the first time they do something too commercial.
I think this show demonstrates that in high fashion it’s more of a sin to make a model’s butt look bigger then to actually show her butt.
The other thing that pissed me off about Jesus was that Tim warned him about it! Have they never watched this show before? Has there ever been a time when someone went absolutely contrary to Tim’s suggestion and it didn’t turn out disastrous? Sheesh!
Fabulous episode. The show is in fine form after the disaster that was last season.
I really liked this episode. Many of the designs were quite well done. I would have picked Amy’s over Jay’s but I can see why they went where they did. I also would have auffed Ping or Jesus over Pamela’s but again I can see why they did what they did what they did.
I think Jay’s probably looked better in person and Pamela’s probably looked worse in person. But Jesus had better step up his game or he’s toast.
My only problem is that I really don’t want to hear from the models ever again. Smile and walk dear. And then shut up. When your only real talent is good genes I don’t find you that interesting.
Well, yes and no. In the very early rounds you can typically skate by with some pretty sketchy construction if you have enough strength as a designer. In those same rounds, you also typically skate by with some pretty dreary-ass designs if you execute them flawlessly. This is because in the early rounds there’s generally someone who has sent down something that is both poorly designed and poorly sewn. But after the cannon fodder is weeded out, you HAVE to be able to both design and sew to stay in the game. You don’t have to be the absolute bestest sewer in the whole room, but you do have to have a lot higher skill level than the average bear.
And valuing design over construction to a certain extent makes perfect sense. A fair amount of construction issues are due to the contestants just flat running out of time. With an extra day or so, these things could be fixed easily enough. Something that’s just flat out fugly or boring, ain’t no amount of extra time gonna fix that.
Besides, in the real world you can always hire a seamstress to do the sewing for you. It’s pretty standard once you reach a certain level of success, because your time is much more profitably spent designing and running the business. I mean, how many times a decade do you think Michael Kors actually lays an orange finger on a sewing machine? I’m guessing that number is in the single digits.
You’re right, of course, about that last point. I know they’re looking for a designer, not a tailor, so I totally get why they lean in that direction. But the whole point of having a time limit is to see what these people can actually accomplish. If it was entirely about design, they could just draw it up on their nifty new tablet PCs and be on their merry way. But since the only people who ever get to skip straight to design without any kind of design education are the Paris Hiltons and Lauren Conrads of the world, this show is supposed to find someone who can both think up something great and has the talent and know-how to pull it off. Do it all in a day and a half and I know that you can budget for time and hit a deadline as well.
It’s a minor quibble, I suppose, but I’d be thrilled to see (somewhere later in the competition) the judges say, “We’ve kept you around a long time cause we like your ideas, but you HAVE to go to school somewhere and learn how to thread a sewing machine.”
I thought Amy should have won, and i thought Jesus should have gone home.
Amy’s dress was great, and it managed to be great without dying the shit out of the burlap so that it didn’t look like burlap anymore. Like the judges said, it didn’t attempt to hide the fabric, and yet still looked fabulous. That’s more impressive, in my opinion, than just dying the fabric so it no longer looks like a potato sack. And her model clearly loved it.
Jesus is not long for this competition. His stuff is dull, and he completely ignored both the spirit of the competition and Tim’s advice. He ignored Tim last week, too, when Tim warned him about the tacked-on look of the bottom part of his dress.
Pamela’s dress wasn’t great, but there wasn’t really much wrong with it, either. I was astounded that she got booted before Jesus, who has now been second from the bottom for two shows in a row.
Ping’s dress was a disaster, but i understand why they stuck with her. I like what she did last week, and she could produce some really interesting stuff if she starts paying attention to the terms of the challenges, and is willing to bend her own ideas a bit to fit the brief.
Having dissed the practice of dying the burlap in my first paragraph, above, i will now contradict myself a little and say that i thought Anthony’s dress was great, even if it didn’t crack the top three on the show. That blood-red color he got from the dying was amazing, and i thought the dress itself looked really good on the model.
I just want to finish by saying that the term “fashion forward” makes me want to club the speaker with a baseball bat.
I think it was because Pamela broke the cardinal - You. Do. Not. Bore. Nina.
And that dress wasn’t anything that hasn’t been seen at rodeos for about the last 20 years. Besides the dye job, there wasn’t anything new or special about it. I would have been OK if Ping or Jesus had gotten the auf too, but I can’t quibble too much with this.
One of the models on Models of the Runway earnestly remarked that making the booty bigger was ‘unforgivable’. My husband and I cracked up because we know tons of women that would pay double for a dress that makes their behinds look bigger. Seriously.
I agree. And even the dye job, while skillfully done, was poorly thought out. Yes, it looked just like denim. But when you think “cocktail dress”, do you think “light-wash denim”?
I think that Jay won because he, as Lauren Hutton said, “made burlap look expensive”. That’s no small feat, and whatever he did to the bottom of it to get that feathery effect was brilliant. That said, I think that Amy did the same, and more. She managed to make burlap both slinky and flowy, and that dress was amazing.
Ping… oh my god. Her poor model. Although I’ll mention that as far as over-exposure goes, I’m pretty sure I saw Seth’s model’s vag, and he’s lucky that there was so much ugly going on in the bottom three, or I’m pretty sure Nina would have asked him if he ran out of fabric.
Overall, I’m impressed with what most of them did.
On an unrelated PR note, Christian Siriano did Christina Hendricks’s Golden Globes dress. I don’t love it, I think you can either go with that color OR those ruffles, but clearly the boy has gotten over his fear of a curve.
Are the models not permitted to wear underwear?
Actually weren’t people talking about this issue last season (or the season before?) with that one designer who couldn’t do bras/chest fit well, and apparently they weren’t allowed to wear bras or at least their own bras, and so that’s probably why the fit was so shitty…
Michael Kors is SUCH a bitch! I missed him so much last season.
The loser’s model did her no favors. She trashed the dress when asked. Ping’s model at least tried to pretend she liked it and was excited to wear that disaster.
Amy’s was my favorite, but I can make a case for the actual winner.
Oh, no he hasn’t. Now, he apparently thinks “if you pack it in tight enough, you can make the curves go away.”
Bad color and shape for her.
I just saw it.
I’m not at all surprised that they kept Ping. They’ve frequently favored an interesting disaster over a boring disaster. I’d have made the same decision.
Besides, she’s good TV.
I watched the first episode with my 7-year-old son, and he begged me to watch this one as well. Kid’s got a good eye! During the runway show, he didn’t just say he liked it or didn’t like it, but picked out elements and details that he thought worked and didn’t work. He is very critical of combinations of fabric that “clash together,” and odd unflattering silhoutettes. He also hates fleurchons and big random embellishments. I’d better not let him watch the season with Angela. He’d have a heart attack or something.