I didn’t think it looked all that cheerleader, and the woman loved it. There’s always a problem with these client-related challenges, that the designer who pleases the client may not please the judges. Hard. Brice shoulda stuck with his first grey-and-pink, it still had the large pocket problem, but it had more potential for interesting.
What did Oliver say? He had no problem with overweight women except when dressing them? By Oliver’s order, any woman with B cup or bigger must now go nude as not to offend their clothes.
After last night, I’m pretty sure that Oliver doesn’t actually want to create fashion, he wants to decorate paper dolls. Just create taupe fabric sculptures with beige accents on two dimensional surfaces. (From previous episodes we know that he doesn’t like colors, either. or prints. or models who move.)
And anyone who spent their teenage years in the US & UK knows what double-D’s are. That was annoying.
I really wanted to hate Josh’s dress and didn’t. He’s still loathsome, but it’s a good dress. His acolyte is also loathsome, but her dress was awful.
The cheerleader dress didn’t go far enough, it needed more something. More detailing, more interest. If he’d gone out-and-out “vintage” it would have been better. Instead, it was just a dress. And the white belt really hurt it.
Could Olivier be anymore of a pretentious, mysogenistic little shit? As an actual woman with actual (gasp!) large breasts I hate him with mad passion. Contempt for the real female form by “designers” like him probably explains why finding a decent fitting top is such a pain in my ass.
Oliver is a pretentious shit who doesn’t like boobs or butts or hips or women who speak.
Was I the only one bothered by Joshua’s man-pec exposure? What the hell? Button your shit up. And stop wearing cutoff denim.
Vicktor should’ve won. Ah, well.
For women who are built like coat hangers, sure. Boobs ruin the line.
I wish the judges hadn’t been so harsh to the ‘real people’ models. Anthony Ryan’s model looked so bummed when Heidi was telling her her taste sucked and she dressed like an old-lady cheerleader.
And of course, the top three were those who had the thinnest models. Shocking.
Funny how often that happens in these challenges, ain’t it?
Josh’s dress was good, but ultimately it was something they’ve all seen before and you could buy in a department store. Which is exactly what they’ve eviscerated other people for in the past, and the bulk of their criticisms of Bryce’s and Bert’s looks this time around.
Well, yes. And I totally can’t believe that I’m defending Josh here because I hate that loathsome little Shite. . . but I have to say that for him that was a stretch.
She came in to the episode wearing quirky clothes of her own. When they announced her profession, my wife said something like, “Wow, she must be an arts industry attorney or something.”
Yeah, i feel exactly the same way. He’s a turd, but that dress looked great.
Despite Olivier being an egregious little shit about the whole challenge, i did feel a bit for him on this show. He got stuck with the most annoying pair of clients. Both of them were assholes, and they were treating him as if he were their actual employee, not just another contestant on a reality show. When the woman complained about the pants riding up her ass, i just wanted to yell at her, “You stupid bitch, just walk down the fucking runway. It’s only going to take 30 seconds.” I also though that the outfit Olivier turned out was pretty damn good under the circumsatnces.
I loved Anya’s dress, too, but every new episode convinces me that her whole schtick about just learning to sew was complete bullshit, a deliberate attempt to make herself an underdog.
It really is pretty depressing in these types of challenges how often the designers with the thinnest models win. I’m not blaming the judges, per se, because i thought the top three and bottom three were all reasonable choices. It could just be that the designers simply can’t cope with working out of their element, as Olivier so annoyingly demonstrated. And they should be able to work with normal women.
But i think it still makes these challenges unfair, because it becomes more about which model you happen to get than about what sort of designer you are. I have no problem doing a “normal woman” challenge where every model is more of a regular size, but a challenge where some get skinny models and some get regular or even large women seems inevitably to lead to results favoring the slimmer clients.
I’d guess that thinner models mean quicker turnaround. I mean, bigger girls mean more fitting adjustments, perhaps tougher patterns/pieces, more tailoring, whatever. It’s so much easier to make a pillowcase dress - or in Josh’s case, a LBD- look better on Barbie.
So I say that PR has a challenge to dress women size 16-20 or even 18-22.
Seriously, if you were a larger woman, would you WANT to be a model for a plus-size PR challenge, knowing what the contestants are probably going to be saying on-air when you’re not there? Most of the designers on this show are so atrociously un-self-aware when it comes to the cameras…or hyper-self-aware and aiming to “make ratings”. I can’t even imagine the toxic crap that would come out of their mouths in the workroom in the times between the fittings.
ETA: Hell, even when you ARE there…remember a couple of seasons ago when one of the designers (and I can’t remember who it was now) criticized his model’s face and figure in (I think) the reunion episode? And this was one of the regular models!
No, it’s not really easier, just more what they’re used to. Pattern-fitting and alterations are tricky with anybody of any size or shape because every body is different from every other body, especially the first time. It takes a lot of mental energy to figure out how to adjust things, especially in the patterning stage, and no matter how much thought you give it there’s still kind of a lot of trial and error. Haven’t you ever noticed how there’s hardly ever a truly fitted, tailored piece done the first challenge, and even so there’s still usually some fit issues/tons of last-minute alterations? And that’s for people the general size and proportion they’re used to sewing for, where things are to some extent automatic.
The further someone is from the size/proportions you’re used to patterning around, the less automatic the changes are, so it takes a lot more thinking. That’s why people like Olive Oyl piss and moan and whine about how haaaaaarrrrrd it all is when the real woman challenge comes up, while designers like Korto just shrug and get to cutting.
In defense of Olivier, I don’t think anybody was giving him a functionally useful answer to his question. Many women who wear a DD and have been buying bras for 20 years don’t know that DD=Band size+4inches.
He needed someone to give him an idea of the dimensions.
And yes, to many asian cultural groups our Ginormous American Bazongas are just plain disgusting. It’s a symbol of excess and laziness to them.
As a wild guess, I’d suspect those women don’t, you know, make women’s clothes for a living.
Excellent point. :smack:
Yah! So glad Mr. “I don’t design for real people” is GONE! He is insulting to women with boobs and men with a gut. This is what real people look like. People are not shaped like mannequins.
Good riddance.
He did have a repulsive attitude, basically auf’ed himselff.
So those were fat guys?,Cue the emaciated fashionista guys, those were real men who wouldn’t squeal if a real woman laid down on topof them…
That wasn’t the right band for this challenge.
While some of the looks were truly awful, even the ones that were kind of ok-ish were still not as good as what the guys in the band could have found for themselves at Value Village. PR should have found some emo-hipsters or neopunks or some band whose look fits a little more with design rather than those guys (who seem really nice, but also seem t-shirts & jeans).
That said, I was worried that Oliver might manage to squeak by one more week. Glad he’s gone.
The moment Olivier went into a tizzy-hand-flail when they dared to play music in his presence was the moment I knew he was gone.
Last night was atrocious. Its like these people had never seen a band before! WHAT the hell was wrong with those people! Bert’s outfit was clearly the only one designed for that band, in that band’s genre, in what the person wanted.
Anya lost A LOT of credibility with me last night. That stuff was fugly, awful, and not to her style.
That serial-killer blood spattered tank top was just rotten. Awful.
I can’t say anything good about anything those people did. They all need to be slapped.
I really, really, REALLY think they need to do a challenge for larger women, AND another menswear challenge. This band challenge showed the limitations of these people to the extreme.