I don’t know, when you see someone sitting across from you, shivering and uncomfortable, even if they CHOOSE to suffer, it makes you feel like a shit?
I know I feel that way.
If she wants to show off her body, why not a form fitting closenit, longsleeved top? Sheesh, you’d be worm, AND sexy.
See, everyone wins.
ROFL! Yeah, that’s what I like to hear! 
What about people who overdress? I used to be accused of doing that when I was younger; for example, wearing long-sleeved shirts in summer, and never any shorts: always long pants! Don’t worry, I didn’t have a problem with child abuse or anything like that where I’d have to “cover up” even on the hottest of days. Around here though, sometimes the cold gets to me.
Well, I’m a mean bitch, because I feel exactly the same way.
This silly woman reminds me of one of my old friends, who got HUGE blisters on her feet, because she refused to wear sensible shoes on a vacation we all took together. All offers and suggestions to relieve her suffering (go barefoot inside, etc.) were refused, with the reason “I’d just feel silly doing that.” To which I finally replied “Well, I have no sympathy for you then, you’ve brought this on yourself.” I was looked at like I was a horrible person, for refusing to feel sorry for this passive-aggressive masochist. Give me a freaking break.
Well, I’m a mean bitch, because I feel exactly the same way.
This silly woman reminds me of one of my old friends, who got HUGE blisters on her feet, because she refused to wear sensible shoes on a vacation we all took together. All offers and suggestions to relieve her suffering (go barefoot inside, etc.) were refused, with the reason “I’d just feel silly doing that.” To which I finally replied “Well, I have no sympathy for you then, you’ve brought this on yourself.” I was looked at like I was a horrible person, for refusing to feel sorry for this passive-aggressive masochist. Give me a freaking break.
Oh damn. How did that happen?
no flirting in the pit, huh? Hmm… is there a closet where we can go hide? _
Aren’t worms cold blooded? 
Yea, I think it’s usually called MPSIMS.
But maybe if we opened some windows in here, added a nice lamp, in general tried to get the whole sweetness and light atmosphere going, no one would notice.
Hey, you two! Don’t make me come over there!
:looks sternly over the top of his glasses at Medea’s Child and sailor:
But if you opened the windows, you might get cold.
She’s freezing, she’s an adult, she refuses to wear a sweater.
Two words.
Fuck her.
All the people here who said ‘but she’s an adult’ are right. She is an adult. And an adult who feels physically miserable and does nothing whatsoever to rectify it even when help is offered deserves whatever kind of suffering they bring upon themselves.
It also sounds like she has a touch of desiris muchlus attentionas, known in the vernacular as ‘being an attention whore’ and deliberately puts herself into this situation of being miserable so that people (you) will bend over backward to try to make her comfortable - thus focusing all attention her and her body. ‘Oooh look at you, you poor thing, you’re shivering. Want a sweater?’ Everyone else in room looks at her to see the shivering
Sure does get all eyes on her, and it’s subtle. It’s a good ruse. So good, that it’ll have people calling you a bitch if you call her on it. Course of action? Ignore. I think she’ll start dressing more sensibly when people stop kissing her ass for her horrible timing.
catsix beat me to it.
Ignore her, and all her manipulative tricks.
catsix and lorinada: You’re absolutely right. She does have a raging case of desiris muchlus attentionas, and it will be my pleasure to ignore her “suffering” from here on in.
And I will refuse to put myself in situations where her refusal to dress properly is likely to cause real problems.
In fact, today, a bunch of us were discussing the possibility of a river trip this weekend. (Blue-Lips was not there.) Blue-Lips’ boyfriend said to my husband, “Maybe you could take Blue-Lips on the cataraft.” I said, “I wouldn’t be comfortable with her on the trip unless she agrees to dress more warmly than usual.” Hopefully he got the hint. If he presses the issue, we will just flat-out refuse to take her on the trip
You see, in our happy little waterworld, being cold isn’t a temporary inconvenience. Refusing to dress properly easily leads to hypothermia. It’s highly unlikely that anyone will go hypothermic sitting in my kitchen, and even if they do, it is a simple matter to either re-warm them (mild hypothermia) or take them to the hospital. On a river trip, especially in the Northeast in March, hypothermia is a real possibility if you are not dressed properly. And if you’re all wet and in the middle of nowhere, re-warming is a real problem, as is getting to a hospital in a timely fashion.
As trip leaders, my husband and I are responsible for the health and welfare of the people on the trip. It would be foolish to take someone who is a known risk-factor.
UPDATE: From the Department of Irony…
Blue-lips just got back from the emergency room. She has pneumonia.
OMG.
I know it’s not funny, please excuse the giggle.
Hey, at least she wasn’t wearing a sweater casually draped around her shoulders. I can’t stand that fashion statement! :rolleyes:
Pfff. Forget ‘I know it’s not funny,’ that shit is funny. I’m laughin.
Green Bean, for her next birthday (or Easter, Valentine’s Day, whatever’s convenient), tell her you’re worried about her so you got her a ‘10 Warning Signs of Pneumonia’ wall calendar or something. Have it start out pretty normal, with whatever things are actually symptoms, and then have it include ‘And you’re too fucking stupid to put on a sweater when it’s freezing out! Dumbass!’
Jesus, you people are strange. You know, I have never, ever, spent one IOTA of energy wondering whether my male friends were wearing appropriate shoes, or belts, or whether they were dressed warmly enough.
It could never, EVER occur to me to think of their personal dressing habits as any sort of issue in our friendship.
Quite frankly, if a friend of mine ever made an issue over my own personal comfort choices, I’d tell him to mind his own damned business.
And I’m glad to see that you’re getting some personal satisfaction out of your friend winding up in the hospital.
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I’ve just seen far too much of this crap. I have lost life-long friends because their new girlfriends/wives had some sort of incomprehensible ‘issue’ with me or my wife. I’ve had to meet these friends alone for lunch, because their spouses or girlfriends refuse to be civil. Some women are just like this - hyper-competitive, angry, always looking for a way to be annoyed or offended. Being friends with them is like walking through a freaking mine field. You never know what you’re going to step on which causes the entire thing to blow up in your face.
My recommendation: Buy the lady some flowers, go see her in the hospital, and never, ever again worry yourself with her personal fashion choices. And even if she’s a complete dipshit, give her a lot of slack because she is, after all, the choice for a companion of someone who you claim to like a lot. Life is just way too short for this shit.
Sam Stone: I invite you to re-read the thread. You seem to have missed a number of points.
First of all, Blue-lips is not in the hospital.
Second, I think I have made clear why this is more than just a matter of her personal comfort.
Third, and more importantly, this is not a male vs. female issue. My husband and I are both friends with the boyfriend. My husband and I are annoyed equally by this woman. We are both re-thinking our friendship with the boyfriend (who is not a life-long friend) because neither of us can stand Blue-lips, and she pitches a fit if he tries to socialize without her. We have both been losing respect for the guy because he puts up with her crap.
Please don’t assume that this is a “woman thing,” just because I am female. I am a regular poster here and my husband is not. Therefore, the rant came from me. But if it would make you feel better, I’ll see if my husband wants to dig up his password and post his thoughts on the issue.
I’m sorry if your wife and your friends don’t get along and vice versa. But “hyper-competitive, angry, always looking for a way to be annoyed or offended” is not me. If anything, I am non-competitive, I laugh at everything, and it takes me a while to get annoyed. But once I do get annoyed… :eek:
Well, I can’t judge this woman based on incidents you haven’t told us about. There may well be many good reasons to hate this woman. But how cold she prefers keeping herself isn’t one of them, nor is her taste in sweaters. And that’s pretty much the subject of your OP. In fact, that’s the ONLY subject of your OP. Allow me to quote:
And…
And…
My opinion is that your position as described in the OP is completely unreasonable, and also that it’s a particularly female type of criticism. If you’ve got other problems with her, fine. Why did you choose this one to start a pit thread over?