Questions about Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End

Since it was a continuation of the story from PotC 2, I went back and re-watched “Dead Man’s Chest” on Sunday night, before going and seeing “World’s End” on Monday.

Worked nicely, refreshing my memory on the story so far.

I didn’t get the impression from the scene with Dead Dad in the boat that he had stabbed the heart. What I remember is just that he was telling them what would happen if somebody did stab the heart. And that he was dead because in a previous scene Lord Cutter made a mention of how “the governor’s usefulness is at an end” or something like that.

Come to think of it, he looked kind of like the Dread Pirate Roberts.

Beckett had never been challenged before. Every battle was pretty much a guaranteed victory for him, so when confronted with an actual threat, he didn’t know what to do.

ETA: And Orlando Bloom was *gorgeous *this time around.

Calypso’s deal really does suck, doesn’t it? One day of freedom as a reward for ten years of work? And as others have mentioned, what happens after Elizabeth dies? It would be especially sad if she dies on land, and Will never gets to see her again. I actually felt sorry for Davy Jones when we found out that he did his job for ten years, just like he was supposed to, only to find that his lover wasn’t waiting for him. It’s hard to think of anything that would hurt worse.
Here’s a thought: in the original legends, the captain of the Flying Dutchman committed blasphemy against God, and was cursed to sail a ghost ship forever as punishment. Maybe this is what happened to Davy Jones. Remember the scene in Dead Man’s Chest where Davy Jones sees a sailor praying, and takes a special dislike to that guy? I’ve always thought that this might be an example of the attitude that got him cursed in the first place. It’s possible that after Davy Jones was cursed, Calypso stepped in and offered him a chance to do something useful. But Calypso was unfaithful, and broke Davy’s heart, so Davy cut his heart out and abandoned his job.

Lord Beckett’s ship (the Endeavor?) could probably have doled out some serious punishment, but Beckett choked under pressure. Actually, a better strategy for the pirates would have been for the Black Pearl and the Flying Dutchman to sail in a Y-pattern, heading toward the Endeavor and then turning away to either side. This would allow them to fire their cannons at Beckett before Beckett could point his cannons at either of their ships. Lord Beckett really would have been screwed then, outmaneuvered and stuck without any good options.

Lastly, I’m intrigued by Captain Bartholomew, Jack’s father. I take it he’s immortal? Perhaps he found the Fountain of Youth. I noticed that Jack did not seek him out upon arriving at Shipwreck Cove, and Jack was definitely scared of him. There doesn’t seem to be much love between them. Jack probably hasn’t seem his dad in years, and when they finally meet again they talk for all of a minute. I’d love to know more about Captain Bartholomew.

Davy Jones broke his covenant because Calypso could be faithful to him while he spent his ten years are captain of the Flying Dutchman. Will on the otherhand was lucky that his love could thus the curse was broken. Had she gone on the ship, she would have been dead. It’s unknown whether her child would have survived this ordeal.

Frigate?? I’m not an expert on ships but I took it be a full-fledged Man O’ War. And since they had their guns run out i.e. presumably loaded and ready, if I’d been the second in command, I would have at least yelled out “All guns-fire at will!”

That’s what gets me. I figured any decent second in command would have taken over the moment the head guy wouldn’t make a decision.

Remember kids, it’s better to chose the wrong choice than to be indecisive.

Did anyone else think the tone was too dark? I mean, hanging a little boy, come on. Or was that necessary to show what a jerk Beckett was?
And if there was any political commentary it certainly was at the beginning when Beckett is doing away with all civil rights…

The only good thing about a sequel involving the Fountain of Youth would be filming in Florida, hopefully involving the old Fort at St. Augustine.

During the movie, I remember thinking a young Cary Elwes would have made a much better Will.

Just a slight quibble. I’m not sure that Beckett and the other Pirate lords were the same ones that originally bound Calipso. So I’m not sure the wooden eye was his in the first place. More likely it was passed down from pirate lord to whomever that person chose as his/her successor. I just didn’t get the feel that these were the same lords that had bound her originally. Anyone remember anything that definitely answers that?

Yeah, but what about Davey Jones and Jack?
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I think Barbossa said, “There hasn’t been a gathering like this in our lifetimes.” So no, they aren’t the same pirates who originally bound Calypso. Although Captain Bartholomew, keeper of the Pirate Codex and Jack’s dad, might be immortal.

Blast you, I was just about to post a similar joke meself!

Bloody pirate!

There’s a rumor floating around about a deleted scene. Calypso explains that if the Dutchman does his job for 10 years and his love remains true and is there for him, he can be free. The scene after the credits showing the glint of green(a soul being returned) in the sunset seems to agree with that.

Pssst - that’d be Captain Teague.

Rigth… he questioned wether or not he knew the legend and said that his usefullness was at an end… implying that he was going to use the legend against him, then the scene later again implied that he had stabbed the heart - his attitude seemed to be of one tricked into something, not one that died trying to do something ‘noble’.

doubt I’ll see it again in the theater, but can’t wait for the DVD.

This would make a heck of a lot of sense. If I were Queen of the World, and this rumor were not true, I would call back the actress who played Calypso to have the scene filmed and added to the DVD.

And it would add to the fuel of Davy Jones’ anger at Calypso.

More on Elizabeth, why is she apparently spending all her time on land, anyway? She’s the King of the Pirate Lords… Why isn’t she on her ship with her crew? She clearly enjoys the whole pirate lifestyle, and her love is now a personification of the Sea. What appeal does land hold for her?

And someone asked what one pirate lord was doing on the crew of another. I was wondering that, too, and my best guess is that Barbosa only inherited the Pirate Lord title after the mutiny, some time while he was wandering the seas cursed.

Yeah - and I want to know where he learned to play a guitar like that - pretty awesome for an old pirate. He must have struck a deal with the devil somewhere. He seemed pretty indestructible, though. Not so sure about Jacks mum, though.

Si