Questions for US dopers

As others have said, it’s a very diverse country. The east and west coast is very different. The northern east coast is different than the southern east coast. Same with the west coast.

The western mountains are very different than the eastern mountains. The northern plains are very different than the southern plains.

Eastern Colorado, is very different than western Colorado, and you have that whole continental divide thing in-between (my home).

Denver, a mere 100 miles away is very different than where I live. In both climate and culture.

Texas has desert, wooded rolling hills and bamboo growing in the wild.

Colorado has wind swept plains, 14,000 foot peaks and deep canyons.

My Wife and I live on the border between a ranching community, and a recreational community. 15 miles in either direction gives you a completely different experience.

Number one – Is the standard of science (and other) education really that dismal?

First, I am an old man, therefore I have an old opinion. Most of the younger people I have met have a narrow view. They don’t know science and they don’t know history. I don’t know that this is a change over the last 40 years but among my friends in the 60’s it is a change. I talked to young people about ‘Normandy Beach’ and they have no idea what I am talking about. Carbon 14 dating is a mystery to be dismissed. This particular website is an exception. I am generally impressed by the rational input of many of the members. However my impression of the level of scientific education in modern America is dismal.

**Number two **– how rife is racism? Would it be noticeable to an outsider, or is it kept underground? Would a black tourist, for example, leave the country feeling there is no racism or would they experience direct discrimination? Which are the most racist areas and which the least?

I thought that racism in America was broad. However the acendancy of Obama in our national primary has given me hope that we can judge a man by his character rather than by the color of his skin. I don’t think we are over the hump but at least I have hope…
Number three – how religious is the average person? If you are an Atheist, can you comfortably bring it up in conversation or do you keep it to yourself? Do people pray before they eat? Do people go to church regularly? Do you have pressure on you to conform to some faith? When you fill in a form do you write down a religion even if you don’t really have one?

Religion is very individual but the fact that we have elected a president largely on his professed beliefs indicates that religion is very important to many Americans. Therefore the assumption that religion is very important is only logical. Are you required to be religious. No. The assumption is that your are. If you declare that you are other than a believer in many places you are looked upon as other than equal.

Number four – how law abiding is the average citizen? When I was in Europe I realised a lot of things rely on the average person being law abiding. Things like trains, trams and busses are often not patrolled and you basically pay on your own. Here in SA it would not work at all. Cops are bribed regularly, traffic laws like the speed limit are exceeded all the time, most people here seem to look at the law as a guideline only. This I presume would not be tolerated or allowed in the US. One of the reasons is you have a higher proportion of cops. But if no one is watching, how law abiding are you (general you)?

People obey the laws that they think are important and meaningful. That is the same everywhere. Can you bribe a cop. Absolutely. It just depends on the crime , the situation and the cop. Everyone can be bought, money is not always the medium of purchase.

And the things I was just wondering:

Number one - what does the average person eat day to day? (To qualify – I’m not talking about first or second generation immigrants, I’m talking about pure red blooded Americans, born and raised. To further qualify – we have something called “boerekos” (boiled veg, roast potatoes, rice and lots of meat – cholesterol heaven) which is the standard fare of the Afrikaners and a lot of English South Africans. Black South Africans also have a regular type of food with maize and meat being the staples. Is there some type of “typical” American fare that people eat in their homes? If you go away and you long for a home-cooked meal, what do you long for?

What does the average American eat? Too much for their physical needs. From my srceen name you should be able to discover where I lay. Most Americans eat processed foods that have most of the fiber remover and have artifical vitamins and minerals added and lots of sugar. Many large metropolitan areas are more health conscience but rural America is mostly all calories and no content.

Number two – How “middle class” is middle class America? Does everyone have a TV, microwave, dishwasher and car – or are some of these things unaffordable for the average person. Do you go away on holiday every year? Twice a year? Three times? Can most people afford a decent restaurant meal every week? More or less often?

As stated by many other responders most Americans have all the mechanical devices they need. I don’t have a cite but as I remember most Americans in upper levels don’t use all the vacation available. Lower economic levels may use their vacations but tend to stay home and not travel. My personal experience is that Americans are not well traveled. In speaking to an Italian friend recently she said people in the US asked her if there was electricity in Italy. My experience leads me to believe that most Americans believe that the rest of the world is primative.

**Number three **– If I come for a visit, what would I be surprised about? One of the reasons I haven’t come is there is nothing that specifically seems to appeal to me. I like history and therefore like Europe, the Middle East and Asia. But America is a young country and does not offer that much in the way of history. What would I be able to see that I absolutely, definitely should not miss and cannot see anywhere else? (I’m definitely not thinking of things like the biggest ball of twine or longest hot dog)

As mentioned before there are many interesting natural features. What you are interested in will dictate where you go. That you have no particualr interest indicates that you have a lack of inquiry into the US. We have a short Europen history but our natural history is as long as anywhere else in the world. Open your mind. Discard your prejudice. I’ve traveled the world. Everywhere, everywhere and repeat everywhere has its majesty. Beauty and wonder is in your eye and in your mind.

**Number four **– why do you insist on leaving out the ‘h’ in herb? And why do you pronounce the word caramel as CAR-mel?
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Local pronounciationations are not a topic for discussion with foreigners. At least not until we are face to face. I can’t spell and becaue of my Texas upbringing I prounce words wierd. That don’t mean I can’t think. Visit America. It’s not what you think.

We had tacos for dinner. Yum.

I could travel my country for the rest of my life and never exhaust all the fantastic national parks and other wild places, great regional foods and additional cultural attractions and yes, history.

In your case, perhaps the greatest attraction might be the temptation to see how many of the generalizations you’ve probably built up from movies, news reports and anecdotes are inaccurate. Broaden one’s horizons and all that. :slight_smile:

Wow. I’m really quite astonished as to the opinions on racism here. One would think by the comments here that racism in the USA was virtually nonexistent. I can absolutely assure you that this is not the case. And as for racism being more overt in small town America, in some rare cases that may be true, but in my experience the big cities like New York and LA are concentrated pits of racist attitudes.

Obama rising to the top of national politics is a great sign, but it’s not the obituary for racism in this country at all. If anything, if/when Obama becomes POTUS, we’ll get a fresh faced look at racism in America. Unfortunately for us other minorities, it will probably be set in the classic “White VS. Black” rhetoric that’s pervaded the country since before the civil rights movement. But, hey, it’s exposure, right?

Racism in America isn’t as open as in East Asia, though, that’s for sure.

Would a tourist notice it? It depends on your ethnicity, how you look, where you go, and how you sound. Believe me, I grew up as a minority in a white household, in a white city. Racism in America is often subtle, but it’s power over the lives of others is probably underestimated.

One other thing to consider: When I was in college, it took a while for our international students to recognize racism. For most of them, they were majority ethnicities in their home countries. They’d never experienced racism before, so they didn’t recognize it for what it was. Because of this, they also couldn’t understand the motives of the various minority groups on campus, and even ridiculed their ideals. By the end of a year or two, though, those attitudes changed quite a bit.

IMHO: A 22year old Post College Grad’s Opinions

  1. I was a biology major in College, and my friends all tended to have quite a decent knowledge of Science and the basics. Of course the people I got along with great were the ones who tended to geek out on the Bio/chem/physics stuff, but that’s just because of similar interests. However, I’ve spoken to others who simply don’t share any real concern about science, because they feel it doesn’t really apply to them. To each their own. The problem i feel lies when one group tries to dictate to the other group ideas: the whole Religious view vs. Scientific views on things like evolution and such. I’ve never personally met a creationist, but still the idea that people would try to restrict another person’s attempts to learn science that is generally accepted by the rest of the world- kinda bugs me.
  2. Racism- not sure. I mean, there are biased people ANYWHERE you go. And I live in Virginia, and I have brown skin- and my parents have an “foreigner” mentality. However, I’ve been raised all my life here, and I get along just fine with most people, and haven’t really encountered full out and out racism or discriminations (others in my family have, but that was a many years ago). So not really sure I can paint a bigger picture for you on that Q.
  3. I’m a Hindu/Other/?, but put myself down as a Hindu. I’m not big on the rituals and such, but I’m very spirtual in that most of my religious views come from my own personal beliefs. I belive that religion is a personal issue, and don’t really see a need to push it towards others, or to go to Temples/churches. I get along with anyone though who is open minded about such things as well, as is evident my my circle of friends. Though I found it interesting that my friends mostly tend to be Agnostics and Atheists, though I do know 3-4 “hardcore” practicing Christians (ie: they go to church every weekend and are serious about it). But again, just by my nature, I tend to get along with people similar to myself- so not really extremists in any sense. We’re all pretty tolerant of one another and easily get along and can have religious thoughts and discussions freely. However, there are plenty of people I know that I wouldn’t want to engage in a religious conversation with because they aren’t as open minded. It just depends on who you interact with- I by my very nature tend to try to stay away from those that preach to me continually.
  4. I love authority. But you’ll never hear me say that. I respect the law, but I do speed once in a while. But i stay under the limit for Reckless! That’s about the extent of my crimes. No bribing or petty theft or such, that seems a bit much.

General Qs:

  1. Erm. I consider myself an American, born and raised here- though raised by indian parents. I dislike Homemade Indian food (though I do like punjabi food, which isn’t where my parents are from). So I do tend to eat a lot of sandwiches and “junk”/“fast” food sadly as getting it homecooked isn’t really an option in my household. I also don’t eat beef though. So lots of chicken sandwiches and pork stuff, but nothing really fancy. Ie: I don’t think i use a stove for anything.

  2. Suburbia pretty much is suburbia. (yeah I got tired at this point).

  3. You should come to check out Yorktown/Colonial Williamsburg/DC areas then. We do have quite a bit of history in reference to the Civil war and Revolutionary War. We preserved alot of the battlefields and all, so you might enjoy coming down and seeing that sort of history. From the hiking trails of Revolutionary War battle sites all the way up to Gettysburg’s Civil War Museums, to the preserved colonies of Jamestown’s settlements and Williamsburg, and of course DC itself, we’ve got a bit of history in this area that we like to keep preserved. If you like History in the sense of Battles and historical towns and such, then yeah- we’ve got those for ya. And of course, I suppose you could always wander around the Amish country or hike the trails and such. Like, everywhere I go it seems in my neck of the woods (Williamsburg/Yorktown) there’s a sign here and there by the road documenting some famous event/battle that happened here. So that’s kinda cool.

  4. Actually, we would have debates on that ALL the time college- one of my friends is a linguistics major and went around surveying us on CAR-mel vs. Care-amel. Turns out I say it both ways depending what what I talk about. CAR-mel for candy and ice cream, but care-mel for apples and the chunky gooey stuff on its own. :shrug: I kinda like all the random dialects and pronunciations and stuff. It’s kinda what makes me like this place- it’s like a smorgasboard of stuff in our melting pot.

Hope that helps ya out. :slight_smile:

Thanks for all the responses. One of the problems in living in a completely different time zone is I’m sleeping while most of you are awake and at work. So it’s 8 o’clock here and I’m just catching up.

I have to admit that I’m surprised at how similar a lot of the answers are. I expected a lot more variation. I have to admit a lot of my questions were gleaned from threads here on the Dope. There are always a few threads where someone mentions the bad state of education, racism, religion or the law. When you read them there is often a vicious debate about these things. I felt that this was probably not a reflection of the general situation but more a case of the debates on this board.

About the history of your country - I was by no means denigrating it. My ancestors come from Europe and Africa and as far as our general history goes for most of us European and African history is the history of our people. American history is American history - it is mostly YOUR history. For modern events (last 100 or so years) American events would form a huge part of world events but I have no particular interest to see it in person. For example I would much rather see Stonehenge than the place where Kennedy was shot, in much the same way that most Americans would probably prefer Stonehenge to the Battle of Rourke’s Drift.

There are actually a lot of things I’d like to see - Alaska, The Grand Canyon, your National Parks, and some of the big cities like Las Vegas and New York - and I will get around to seeing them, it’s just that there are so many other places I want to go first.

And I was completely joking about the herb thing (blame Eddie Izzard). To be perfectly honest I find the Australian accent to be a lot more grating on my ears.

About the food thing. I enjoy cooking and eating. I often read the cooking and recipe threads and I’m often surprised to read about things I’ve never heard of. It surprises me how diverse your choices seem to be. (You’ll never find Bacon Salt here - I won’t even look for it) In this country our choices are getting better all the time but have always been quite limited. Up till recently I could easily meet someone that had never had Thai food, or sushi, or heard of such " exotic" things such as polenta and couscous.

I was interested to see whether there was some standard “meat and potatoes” fare or if everyone embraced the choices you have.

Dangle Your Modifer writes:

> For example I would much rather see Stonehenge than the place where
> Kennedy was shot, in much the same way that most Americans would probably
> prefer Stonehenge to the Battle of Rourke’s Drift.

Not very Americans have visited Dealey Plaza (where Kennedy was shot), even though it is possible to see it as a tourist. I suspect that the majority of Americans wouldn’t want to see it even if it happened to be a convenient part of a trip. I think most Americans might find the idea of going there a bit ookey. They might be slightly more comfortable visiting the place where Martin Luther King was shot, which is also now possible for tourists. At least appreciating that is about understanding the history of racism in the U.S., while Dealey Plaza is about understanding nutcase killers. I suspect that more Americans have visited Stonehenge than have visited either Dealey Plaza or the King memorial.

The Kennedy and King places are too recent for most Americans to consider as “history.” They’re almost current events. A better example would be visiting Colonial Williamsburg and seeing restored versions of eighteenth-century homes. Or they would visit Washington, D.C. and see the Capitol and the Washington Monument, which are nineteenth-century buildings.

Eh, some of us are shameless night owls. The Dope feeds the addiction.

There’s a lot more nuance to it than that. First foreigners tend to really underestimate how big the US is and how diverse it is. The diversity is not just racial. We’re very socially, economically, religiously, geographically (and probably every other adverb you can think of) diverse. Some of the debates that happen here get heated because the forum is intended to stir vigorous debate, that tends to be the point. Just like in a debate class or a courtroom, the two sides might be reduced to yelling and screaming at each other over the interpretation of something that 99% of people don’t even have an opinion on. In some cases it’s more about being right than the topic at hand.

Religion is a tricky one. While it’s not that big of an issue on the surface, most tourists wouldn’t even notice it, it plays a big role in the big picture. Typically the conflict has very little to do with differences of religion though, there’s almost no conflict between Catholics and the various other denominations of the Christian faith. Jews are pretty openly accepted even by the most devout Christians and Muslims. The more heated debates usually involve the religious powers getting too involved in politics and society at large. The diversity of religion makes the separation of church and state critically important and that’s where the most anger comes from. Generally as it applies to a tourist and a persons day-to-day life it’s almost invisible. Open displays of religion would cause more sideways looks than atheism even if most people consider themselves personally religious.

Race is another tricky one with a lot of nuance. I’m of the opinion that we are a exceedingly tolerant country. Places that are much more homogeneous in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Middle East are far more racist than we are but it might manifest itself extremely rarely. Some of the racist stuff that happens at Soccer matches in England and France would never be tolerated here. We are extremely sensitive to racism and spend an inordinate amount of time worrying about it. As a result superficially it’s almost entirely invisible, and I think the subtle forms of racism that do happen would be lost on people not familiar with our preoccupation with it.

Education is a bit simpler to explain. As a country that is much less socialized than most Western democracies there’s a lot of variation in the quality of education. Also, because of all the social diversity there isn’t always a lot of agreement one what constitutes a complete, balanced education. On average I think that we are very well educated and a pretty substantial proportion are supremely well educated. While some public school in rural areas or inner cities are under funded, an even greater number of school are probably overfunded. Elite private education that is simply unattainable for the vast majority of the world and prohibitively expensive for the middle class in Western Europe is much more affordable and common here. Even lower middle class families can and do send their kids to private schools, which in some ways contributes to the public school’s test scores. Interestingly you mentioned Science education a number of times which I’d say is our very strongest subject. Science is highly regarded here and I think most kids get to use a lot of pretty advanced tools, we innovate at a hell of a high level. History and World Geography are our weak spots but that’s largely a result of what we are as a country. That vast size and diversity make teaching our own history pretty complicated and because there has been quite a lot of dynamic change in a short period of time it’s all pretty relevant. We expend a lot of energy trying to teach US history and US geography and world geography and history tend to suffer as a result.

When I read your OP I was planning to address this (then I decided not to bother when I noticed there were 40 some responses already). The diversity theme continues here. To think of a standard American meal is almost an anathema. We have myriad choices of both fresh produce and groceries and of ethnic and non-ethnic restaurants. We have a lot of food that we’ve either invented or bastardized to the point of being practically original that people eat frequently but the idea of a “regular” meal is just not the way most people tend to think. Most people strive to keep the repetition in our diet to a minimum, that, if anything, is the closest to a theme you’ll find I think. If I had to pick one meal I’d probably go with a Cheeseburger and Fries, but even still most families probably eat that only a couple times a month (young single people and the poor probably will disagree on that frequency).

Ok maybe the Kennedy thing was a bad example. Perhaps Williamsburg is a better example. However my point still holds true. Restored 18th century homes in the US would not be as interesting to me as a castle in the UK. But that’s just me. When I come over there for a visit I would probably be looking more at the natural beauty than the history. I’m mostly a food tourist anyway. I eat my way through a country.

A lot of that probably has to do with the standard of living and the diversity available, as you mention. In many poorer countries you obviously don’t have that choice. As an example I spent 3 weeks next to Lake Malawi eating chicken, fish, rice and maize. Every day, breakfast, lunch and dinner. That’s all there was.

This is exactly what i was after. Do most Americans embrace the diversity of cuisine available or do they stick to their staples. You have answered my question. Although we have more and more of a selection available here in SA the vast majority of people eat pretty much the same food day in and day out.

If you’re looking for what could be considered “typical” American non-ethnic food, I would say the best example would be the menu from a “bar and grill”-type casual dining restaurant like Bennigans or TGIFridays or Ruby Tuesdays or Applebees or Houlihans. These are the type of places parodied by Jennifer Anniston’s character in Office Space, who had to wear 15 pieces of “flair” on her uniform. They would be a common lunch spot for the mid-level professionals in Office Space and a typical type of evening dining out place for a huge range of Americans.

If you look at the menu for Ruby Tuesday (it was the least annoying of the websites for those restaurants), a 900 outlet nationwide chain, it has a wide range of choices, including salads, soups, chicken, seafood, steaks, ribs and burgers. It is common for Americans to have a diet that includes all of those types of foods on a regular basis.

More broadly, there are numerous casual dining chains featuring “ethnic” food such as Mexican, Chinese and Italian, which are themselves pretty darn Americanized. Further, it is much more common for ethnic restaurants to be individually-owned, local outlets, rather than chains. Most towns of any size will have at least one Italian, Mexican and Chinese restaurant, among others (not even counting that great Italian-American food, pizza, which is everywhere). Almost all Americans include those (at least Americanized) ethnic foods in their diets.

So, you can’t really say what a typical “American” diet is, because it varies so much all over the lot. This is one of the great benefits of the American immigrant melting pot, as we’ve adopted cuisines from around the world as our own.

It’s easy to get the impression that most American restaurants are one of a few popular chains. In fact, there are more Chinese restaurants in the U.S. than there are McDonalds, Burger Kings, and Kentucky Fried Chickens put together. Yes, the quality of the Chinese restaurants varies greatly, from absolutely terrible and hopelessly Americanized to really pretty good and authentic.

It’s been a really long time since I’ve had meat and potatoes. Breakfast for me could be any combo of eggs, toast, sausage or bacon, waffles, pancakes, cereal, fruit, coffee, juice.
Tamales are popular here in So Cal, more so around Christmas, as are avocados.
Some folks think we are nutty for liking pineapple on our pizza now and then.
Lunch for me is usually a sandwich, salad, California roll, or soup.
Dinner for me is frequently Italian fare, occasionally Mexican, Chinese or Thai, or a hamburger, casserole, or chicken tenders.
Desserts: pie, cake, cookies, ice cream, chocolates.

I’m going to post my response and then go back and see what other people’s opinions are.

**My background: ** I grew up in 2 different poor areas–one rural and one urban. My family would describe themselves as “lower middle class.” My parents went to college for 4 years, bachelor’s degrees. Mom was a teacher for a while until I came along and then stayed home with me and then my brother, Dad worked. When I was growing up, the family yearly income peaked at $40,000 American per year, right before I went to college. We always had a car—extremely necessary for transportation. We didn’t have a dishwasher. We did have a TV, but they were generally used, and we didn’t have cable until I was a junior in high school. Money was sometimes tight when my dad was between jobs, and he was once unemployed for over a year (right before we moved—so he could find a job) we subsisted on his unemployment checks and food stamps. I’ve never gone hungry, and we never wanted for necessities like food or heat in the winter or clothing, but new clothes came from cheap stores.

I am 24, I have a bachelor’s degree, and I’m self-employed. My husband has a bachelor’s degree as well. He is employed.

Number one – Is the standard of science (and other) education really that dismal?
Whoo, now this one is a hard one. It really depends on the school district, and the school district often depends on whether you’re in a rich neighborhood and what state you’re in. I’ll start out with a general description of the school system. Each state (and I assume districts and territories) is responsible for managing its own educational system. Some things are standard: “Public” (funded by taxes) school starts around 5 years old with Kindergarten, then grades 1-12. Grades 9-12 are high school, Grades 1-8 can be either “elementary school” by themselves, or split into “elementary” and “junior high” or “middle school” (jr. high and middle school are the same thing.) Colleges and universities are another kettle of fish that I won’t go into. Some are good, some are bad. Some are “state” schools funded partially by taxes. Some aren’t.

“Private” schools are also available, sometimes Catholic schools, sometimes not, and these are funded by, at least partially, student tuition. Obviously, quite a few people cannot afford this. Some parents choose to “home school” and that’s legal as long as they do…some sort of legal runaround with the school district. I’m not clear on home schooling, but I think there are still public standards they have to abide by.

As far as I know, children under 18 are all required by law to attend school of some sort.

In my personal experience, the public school I went to in Kentucky ran circles around the public school district I went to in Ohio. Kentucky went through an educational reform system involving new standards for testing and teaching back in the late 80s and 90s. My middle school work in Kentucky was, quite honestly, more rigorous and at a higher level than the work I did in high school in Ohio. My opinion on this has come as a shock to people who think that Kentucky is just a backwoods hole. (Ok, in some ways I think so too, but I’ll get to that in a minute.) Ohio schools were a joke when I went. They had formal testing at the 9th grade level and the 12th grade level. You didn’t have to pass the 12th grade level test to graduate, just your classes. You did have to pass the 9th grade level test to graduate high school. My disdain for Ohio schools would take up far more room than I have here. Some other states have “magnet” schools where students with special aptitude in the arts or science or engineering can take a test and be admitted to. Some states spread tax money around the districts and some keep the money in different districts.

Add government management and taxes to this mess and you have the reason Americans are so annoyed with our school systems. There’s no country-wide standard, and quite honestly, it’s a huge fuckin’ mess. We know that our stats are slipping compared to other countries, and we’re irritated by that. This is partially, if we’re honest, because “We’re Americans and we want to be the best damn it!” and partially because we want kids to have good educations that will allow them to function in the growing global society.

**Number two – how rife is racism? Would it be noticeable to an outsider, or is it kept underground? **
It would probably depend on what country you’re coming from and what race you are. Racism is there. It depends on the environment, and it depends on the races that are interacting. It depends on whether it’s a city with a huge mixed population or a backwoods town (coughWestLibertyKentuckycough) where there are still people who quite openly about how “those people” are fine, but “I don’t want one marrying my daughter, I’m just sayin’.”

We’re embarrassed by those people, at least. We have loud arguments with them at least. People aren’t directly barred from places of business or schools, at least. But it’s really not enough. We tend to mill around awkwardly with people of different races like school-kids who have just been told by the teacher to stop fighting and make friends. The divide between white people and black people seems largest to me. As a people, we’re more comfortable with “recent” immigrants instead of our old demons. I remember a big nasty fight on here a while back because Biggirl’s daughter was reduced to tears by a racist customer at her workplace. Shit like that still happens. As a white person, I’m certain I’m more insulated from this than others.

**Number three – how religious is the average person? **
Protestant Christianity seems to me to be the biggest religion, and various sects argue amongst themselves and some are more tolerant than others. I’m an atheist, and there are still people who’d be shocked and horrified by that. One of them’s my grandma. I would not put a religion I did not adhere to down on a form. Religious discussions are generally kept out of the workplace—fine among friends, and I don’t know anyone who feels the need to hide their opinion from anyone they’re friends with—just easily troubled old ladies. My family prays before they eat and doesn’t go to church regularly, despite being generally religious. In Kentucky, we went to church for the yearly summer picnic, for Easter, and for the Christmas play with the kids.

Number four – how law abiding is the average citizen?
I think the average person obeys the law—occasional minor traffic violations like going through a yellow light or speeding a little are common. I, personally, trust the cops to be honorable and not bribable. Depends on the neighborhood—some places are more dangerous and different crimes are more common in different places. We have small towns where people don’t lock their doors, medium/large sized cities that are nice, and medium/large sized cities that are holes. I feel quite safe in my day to day life, and I would not be afraid of a stranger I met in the street. I would not leave my laptop unattended in a coffee shop.

**Number one - what does the average person eat day to day? **
This morning, I had coffee with cream, a glass of water, and a bowl of Honey Nut Cheerios. We have cereal or a bagel for breakfast, usually. On weekends, I like to make a big breakfast with scrambled eggs, biscuits, and potatoes. Sometimes bacon–we’re trying to eat healthier lately. For lunch, I generally have a sandwich with ham, cheddar cheese, lettuce, and mustard. Sometimes a sandwich with tuna with lettuce and tomato. Generally I’ll have a handful of potato chips or some carrot sticks with it. We have fast food for dinner around once a week—Wendy’s , Taco Bell, pizza, or Chinese takeout. For dinner, I make a lot of chicken dishes—baked, stir-fry, or pan fried. I’ll marinate and bake sirloin steak with bell peppers and potatoes. In the summer, we’ll have homemade burgers and fries and corn on the cob. (mmm…) Dinner usually involves meat of some sort, with vegetables either mixed in or as a side dish. Lettuce, mushrooms, broccoli, carrots, and bell peppers are always in my fridge. Frozen beans and corn are always in the freezer. Potatoes and rice are always in my cabinet.

My mother in law’s taco recipe needs to make an appearance a few times a month, or my husband will go into withdrawal. I love cornbread and pinto bean soup, and my husband won’t eat it, so it’s a rare treat from my childhood when I take the time to make it. I’d say the typical American dinner involves a hunk of meat and cooked veggies or a salad as a side. We were all traumatized by public school lunches, which are generally soggy, microwaved, pre-packed, weirdly flavored monstrosities. Maybe that’s another reason we’re mad at our schools.

I generally I keep some apples or grapes on the table, some cookies and popcorn in the cabinet. These disappear over time as snacks here and there. My husband is a Coca-Cola addict who’s trying to quit, so I won’t keep it in the house any more. He’ll buy a half liter now and then, and we’ll have coke when we’re eating out. I like iced tea and lemonade.

**Number two – How “middle class” is middle class America? **
See, the thing is, everyone here pretty much wants to be “middle class” American. We like to pretend we don’t have classes, because all we really have are the divides between finances, education, and race. It makes it complicated. People who have all kinds of toys, new clothes, solid houses, a maid who comes in once a week, a new car every year, and money saved for retirement want to call themselves middle class. We’ve got tons of college debt and live in an apartment with bookshelves from Walmart, but a dishwasher, but we can afford car payments and decent computer equipment and brand name groceries and the occasional treat when we want it. We can afford to fly to visit family once a year. We call ourselves middle class. My parents lived paycheck to paycheck, bought groceries from the cheap store in bulk and stocked up on sales, kept a garden, had hand me down furniture and ratty cars, and bought clothes from places called Family Dollar. We never went hungry, though. Our vacations were a week visiting family a couple hour drive away. They call themselves middle class. Cars are painfully necessary here, and public transportation is rare and badly managed.

In general, we can agree on this:
“The poor” = people unable or really struggling to support themselves
“The rich” = people who wipe their asses with $100 bills

Everyone in between argues about labels.

**Number three – If I come for a visit, what would I be surprised about? **
I hear we’re happy and friendly. We have some scenery you would not believe. Not believe. I recommend: mountains in Colorado, hills in Kentucky, anywhere around Seattle, and the beaches on Florida’s gulf coast. Also, we eat well. Lots of immigrants and a good economy does that. The criticism I see most often is that the American food people in other countries see is just fatty plastic crap. Well, no, we don’t want to tell you about that awesome rib joint in Georgia or that hole in the wall Vietnamese place in Denver, or those tamales a friend in high school brought in for a party, or my aunt’s fried chicken, or we’d have a run on the place. :wink:

Number four – why do you insist on leaving out the ‘h’ in herb? And why do you pronounce the word caramel as CAR-mel?
Because that’s the right way to say it, of course. :smiley:

As someone currently living in China and suffering through authentic Chinese food, I think that should instead read “absolutely terrible and hopelessly authentic, to really pretty good and Americanised.” Chinese-American food tastes far better to my palate than most of the authentic stuff. (Of course, I’m eating Cantonese food – I understand Mandarin cooking is better.) :smiley:

I would reiterate that this is a large and diverse country.

That having been said, it is likely that some one will “witness” to you, that is, attempt to convert you to the Christian faith. Evangelism of this sort is (in my experience) much more common in the US than in Europe or elsewhere. It is perfectly acceptable to simply say, “Thanks, but I really don’t want to talk about religion”, although this does not always stop us.

Obviously some ways of witnessing are more intrusive than others, so your experience may vary.

Regards,
Shodan

Hmm. This question is too difficult for me to answer briefly. So let me just be flippant and say that it’s not the educational standards that are dismal, but rather the students that are dismal.

I doubt it.

It would be very unusual for a tourist to face racism in public situations.

I don’t bring it up with people I don’t know well. In public places and workplaces, the majority of people are likely to be serious Christians, but in cosmopolitan areas, they’re likely to keep that to themselves too. In small towns, overt religiosity is more prevalent.

Usually not in public. I have seen people praying very rarely in restaurants and such and it has struck me as freakish. In private homes, it’s much more common.

It depends on whom you associate with. In cosmopolitan cities, it would be very strange for someone to put that kind of pressure on you.

Forms don’t ask your religion.

I’m not sure it would work here either. You’re required to pay before you board.

This is not common in America. In fact, my personal interactions with police have been very cordial, even when I was being issued a citation. On two occasions, later, in court, when I appeared to ask the charges be dropped, the officers who ticketed me were downright friendly.

Speeding is common. Otherwise, traffic rules are generally obeyed. Americans, generally, are very law-abiding when in public. Underage alcohol consumption is common in private.

Number one - what does the average person eat day to day?
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Crap.

Fast food, take out, microwaved frozen foods, unhealthful restaurant food. Hamburgers, pizza, hot dogs, the potato in all its forms.

Actually, food habits vary a lot from region to region and by socio-economic class.

Real home-cooked meals, as opposed to take out or microwaved packaged food, are increasingly rare among “red-blooded Americans.”

Most people have a television, microwave, and dishwasher. Someone who can’t afford a car is likely to be working in a low-level service job. Any middle class person who doesn’t have a car has chosen to be carless.

Vacations are tougher. A lot of middle class people don’t take many vacations because a lot of us don’t get a lot of time off from work.

What do you mean by “decent”? People eat out a lot here.

I’ve been told that the most suprising thing is how fat we all are.

You will find Americans generally to be friendly, smiling, polite, and helpful. That might be surprising.

Same reason we leave it out in “honor” or “homage.”

Not all of us do. I don’t.