Any EuroDopers out there?

It seems like we have legions of Aussie, British, and (obviously) American (and yes I’m including Canadians, whether they like it or not, under the header of “American”) Dopers, but it seems pretty rare that someone identifies themselves as a European around these parts.

Now if you are an expat from one of the above mentioned countries living in Europe, I permit you to reply, but you must identify yourself as such and thus only count as a Quasi-EuroDoper.

So, any EuroDopers?

Yes.

There are several others, but it might take a few hours until they wake up.

I’m awake. Hiya. Why did you ask, Rigamarole? :slight_smile:

I’m always curious about what kind of demographics the Dope represents, and I’m wistful for tales of faraway lands. I spent 6 months in Mexico living by a university for foreign students where I got to meet people from France, Germany, Norway, et al. for the first time in my life. (yes I met Mexicans too but there was a total cultural amalgamation in that particular town) It was one of the most interesting experiences I’ve had.

Maybe we can like… exchange stories or ideas between our foreign cultures… or something. Wouldn’t want the power of the internet to go to waste. Anyway right now though I’m dead tired - I’ll have to see who else posts by tomorrow.

Welterusten = goodnight, Rigamarole :slight_smile:

There are bucketloads of us. By the way, why do you exclude British Dopers? Last I checked, Britain (both of them) was in Europe.

You don’t say? I thought Brits were very insistent on not being included as part of Europe.

Présent!

No, not the typical SDMB Brit, at any rate. Just most of them are insistent on political distance from Brussels. Very different.

Interesting definitions that you’ve used in what countries of origin get classified into what categories, and rather inflammatory to some (both Canadian and American) to suggest that Canadians “whether they like it or not” are American.

Both of them? :dubious:

Yes. Great and… the other one.

Errr… well, I really have heard British people insist that G.B. is not part of Europe. I’m not making it up. But I guess that isn’t an across-the-board feeling.

As for Canadians being “American”, they are North American, and I think lists seperated by commas that contain more than 3 items are superfluous. Hence Aussie, British, and American Dopers. If you want to contest this categorization, I do have a mailing address where I receive complaints, it is located at:

P.O. Box 42
Sense of Humor, America 90210

Present.

Isn’t there a joke about a British newspaper headline “Fog on Channel, Continent isolated”?

I am a quasi-European doper. American living in Germany. I’ve been here for 3.5 years, and have been all over Europe. I’m moving back to the US May 1, and I will miss Europe terribly, though I’m ready to go home. It’s been a wonderful experience, though.

Another U.S. expat here, coming up on 12 1/2 years in Europe. I spent my first 2 1/2 years in Brussels and have lived since then in London. I have so-called indefinite leave to remain in the U.K.

If this attitude exists at all, it must be in a teensy little minority.

There is a habit here (and in Ireland to a smaller extent) of referring to the continent of Europe as “Europe” rather than “the continent”, but that’s just a mistake.

We might have a vocal anti-EU lobby, and we’re not part of the Euro currency, but we’re European by geography and we’re European by membership of the EU. Any Brit saying we’re not part of Europe is just plain flat-out wrong.

So, I identify myself as a EuroDoper.

As a UK passport holder / Brit / Englishman / Londoner / Cockney / European, I feel qualified to answer.

I think there are several reasons for British attitiudes to Europe.

‘Against’ would include:

  • some country folk don’t care for Europe. They may have never travelled abroad, and consider the Queen the rightful ruler.

  • some think the special relationship with the US matters far more than Europe. (This is far less prevalent with the current US President. :eek: )

  • The UK Independence Party (only a small minority, but a registered political party)

‘For’ would include:

  • some parts of these islands have taken advantage of European grants + the Common Market (Ireland comes to mind)

  • Euro Members of Parliament (overpaid and over there, so to speak)

Come on, let’s be consistent…are you talking about Europe or the EU? :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m not sure of the difference between the countries in Europe, the European Union, the European Football Championship and the Eurovision song contest*. :confused:

*but this includes Israel!