Read and weep. :mad: :mad:
My vocabulary is wholly insufficient.
Huh. I thought this was going to be about the guy offering to babysit on Craigslist, and usd the two year old in a porn film.
13? I can’t believe they are doing that at 13! How are they that unsupervised for that long?
Let’s see. I was in about 7th grade at 13. Freely able to walk to and from schools by myself and visit friends without issue. It’s plausible. Do you think they should have been on leashes with GPS units?
Don’t think that I don’t think this is horrible because I would be making phone calls to ready the gas chambers now if I had that kind of power. However, the people in question are supposed gang members and some with names that hint at minority status. This crime doesn’t seem all that appalling compared to thousands of others that take place in the world every day. Raping a young girl is horrible but killing a child is worse and executing your own children is worse than that. I am not sure why the OP singled out this case in particular. If it were one of my own daughters, this would become a core part of my life crusades but a casual viewing of any international media on any day yields much worse unfortunately.
I don’t think that they should be on leashes, no, but since this group of young male upright-walking bipeds were said to be part of a gang, I would think that there were signs that the kids were in trouble. I am not a parent, but I can imagine that there were some signs that these…things…were doing the wrong thing. And vigilant parents would have noticed that, so I would say there is a failure to supervise the kids.
They got on their phones and called other boys to come join them in raping the girl. Wow.
Wow is right, Ruby… that’s collossally stupid. Cell phone calls leave records. It could only have been stupider if they’d texted.
What if the family is barely functioning as such? Hardly an unusual circumstance in somewhere like Hackney.
Edit: for those less familiar with London, a quick trawl of Wikipedia produces “every [electoral] ward remains among the 10% most deprived in the country, with 47% of children living in low income households”, just to give some vague context.
Gangbangers committing a gang rape? That’s too commonplace for a raised eyebrow. Your RO should be reserved for the people who walked past and did nothing
This is NOT a shot at you, GorillaMan, but what does any of that have to do with the reported crime of gang raping a 13 year old?
If they’re poor, so what? Millions of po’folk don’t go 'round gang raping 13 year olds.
If they’re from a minority background, again with the so what?
Nothing in their backgrounds can be used in their defense for this act.
If there were proper justice in this world, the lot of them would be found in an alley near the crime scene, shot in the eye from close range and their 'nads cut off and stuffed in their mouths.
I know that England is going through a fair bit of trouble with its family services agencies in the aftermath of Baby P, and that times are tough, but that is no excuse for a parent making sure their child is not in a gang. I can understand losing control at 16 or 17, when kids start getting their licenses for cars or they start to have jobs and some independent income, but what kinds of resources can a 13 year old provide for a gang?
There is no way this is justifiable on th child’s part or the parents’ part. How do you not know who your kids friends are? Even if you have a bad work schedule, sick relative, whatever? Don’t you get on the phone (which you evidently can afford, if your 13 year old has on) and call parents? insist the kids spend some time in your living room?
And how do you not notice that your kid is dressing in gang colors, or has whatever markings designate them as being part of a gang? I don’t see how these things are possible.
You don’t get a drivers’ licence in England until you’re 18. You can get a provisional licence at 17, which is like a learners’ permit - ie., you need someone older (over 21, I think) in the car with you.
Re: the OP - that’s fucked up. The passers-by should be nearly as ashamed as the rapists.
Come on. The kids were just trying to have a little fun. Lay off the boys.
I’m really hoping this is just a failed attempt at humor and not a sincere sentiment.
What the hell kind of statement is that? Do you seriously believe this shit?
:rolleyes:
Hilarious.
ETA: A really good troll is like a fine wine. You, however, are a 3/4ths empty bottle of Boone’s Strawberry Hill.
Robbery. Burglary. Drug dealing. There’s plenty of things a 13-year-old can do.
Stolen, almost definitely.
This is really getting off-topic, I know, but you can get your full licence at 17. You’re correct about how the provisional licence works.
When I was thriteen I was much too old to be playing in the living room. What would we do? Sit in front of the TV set? We were riding our bikes, hanging out at the mall, riding skateboards, and sitting around a friend’s portable radio in the park making really poor quality copies of each other’s tapes. By thirteen we were also going to movies alone. Our parents would drop us off and pick us up if it was an early evening film. On a Saturday, with permission, we’d take the bus downtown by ourselves. Our parents were often the ones paying for our movie ticket unless we’d saved enough from our allowances. My parents had a reasonable idea of who my main friends were and knew them by sight and name, but I can assure you there was a whole second tier of friends my parents probably didn’t know.
And not one of us ever got into trouble or committed a crime.
It’s not like the movies. Gang members don’t always wear uniforms and as you said “whatever markings”. If you don’t know what the “markings” are, then how would you identify them on your kid? Teen gangs are not always organized criminals. They are often just packs of kids. Charlie Brown and his friends were a “gang,” remember? The difference is, some packs of children are full of rotten apples.
By the age of thirteen many children have a fair amount of independence and the vast majority do not get into any kind of trouble.
I am going to assume that this is not an isolated act of bad behavior on the part of these teens, and the schools must have been having trouble with them- from a lack of attendence, a lack of homework, incidents in school that are gang-related, all of these things. The schools must have been trying constantly to get in touch with these parents. They must have known these kids were troubled, and they didn’t crack down on them.