'Cause it’s the woman, silly! In this country, female rape victims are often accused of asking for it. In Islamist countries, they’re often convicted of adultery or fornication unless they can conclusively prove otherwise, and then killed for it! See? It’s only a matter of degree.
Everybody must get stoned.
Fuck off. Yet another Oh Noes, Amerika!
Get some new material asshat.
I think it’s the charge of rape that needs all the witnesses, which is why men are rarely convicted.
Look em up yourself, asshat. You’re the one making claims about how I feel. You find that shit, and bring it on. As things stand, you’re no better than those fuckwits from 2003 claiming everyone who didn’t support the invasion of Iraq hated America.
Do you support torture by the US today, xt? I’ve made it clear that I don’t support torture by anyone, but in this thread, you seem to be doing your best to make excuses for the good ol’ USA. Are the Bush years and America’s fling with torture something you’d just as soon have everyone forget? If so, that’s pretty scummy of you.
Did you ever come out against waterboarding? I know many still embrace the practice:
Poll: Don’t investigate torture techniques May, 2009:
Are you one of those supporters, and thus made uncomfortable by comparison of our practices to Iran’s? That’d explain your flailing attack on me for what was a pretty mild comparison between us and them.
Yeah, well you get right on back to lopping the heads off cats with your lawnmower, or whatever it is you do in your spare time.
Interesting info. Thank you.
That’s scary especially if you’re a woman.
No charge of Adultry needs 4 witnesses who actually saw the penetration occur for the matter to even become a live issue.
You’re disgusting. If you even THINK that waterboarding is nearly as bad as stoning a woman to death is in the same ballpark, you’ve got some series issues.
And before you bring it up, yes waterboarding is torture, and yes it’s wrong. It doesn’t mean it’s even in the same hemisphere as this situation.
You sicken me.
Look, dipshit. I have been anti-war from the start and anti-torture all along. Yet I’m not a fucking retard, so I can understand that there’s a difference of degree between torturing people you suspect of terrorism for information (which I still think is wrong and not even most effective method) and fucking KILLING a woman because you SUSPECT she might be guilty of something that really isn’t all that harmful anyway. At least terrorism, what they’re ostensibly trying to prevent, is legitimately harmful. This, on the other hand, is just a way of enforcing their brutal ownership of women.
The US torturing people is bad. It is not an equivelant bad of stoning a woman to death for suspected adultery. You just have a stick up your ass and you want to complain about how horrible America is, so anytime anyone points out a nasty thing happening in the world you can pop up with your retarded false moral outrage and say BUT THE US IS JUST AS BAD!!!
No one likes people like you, even people who generally agree with you politically. I’m on your side being anti-war and anti-torture, yet I think your a shrill harpy idiot who hijacked a thread because you can’t wait to lay down some bullshit moral outrage.
The difference between Vegas in July and the center of the sun is just a matter of degree. They’re only one small step removed.
A small step indeed…
The difference between telling another poster to fuck off, and uploading a virus to the SDMB servers, is really just a matter of degree.
Well, okay, not really, but they *are *both against the rules. In the future, please don’t use sexual insults against other posters.
No warning issued.
Good point, and chalk is quite similar to cheese.
It is all Bush’s fault.:eek:
Actually, to get away from the vituperation …
Can I point out that stoning is actually a death sentence that is a more honest death sentence than any other form of execution?
The community is enforcing their laws by the community participating in the death sentence as an institution instead of hiring a single person to perform the sentence.
The fact that we consider the form of execution barbaric is moot - until recently the barbarity of the form of execution was a moot point. It is a good thing that we culturally are concerned with the humanity level of our punishments, but let us actually consider what we really need to be concerned with here - the legal system that is more concerned with punishing someone for what is really a very minor issue. Marital fidelity/chastity really should be removed from the legal system as anything past a monetary fine or minimal time in jail, as a misdemeanor crime. I am not certain if sharia [muslim law] can recognize the difference between levels of crime [misdemeanor vs felony] as I am not any sort of expert in the issue … but the issue is in the cruelty of considering something as minor as sexual peccadillo as an offense needing such a barbarous punishment.
It does appear that the local court system does in fact want to change the punishments available to exclude stoning - what we need to do is concentrate on some manner of getting the government to finish with the process of changing the punishments allowed by law. The issue here is that the system is in need of modification, which has been delayed allowing the punishment to be mandated. What can we do to hurry the process along? Not much. It is a matter internal to their country not ours, so this is essentially a matter of recreational outrage. Unfortunate but true, railing on a message board will do nothing. Short of moving troops in and removing the government and replacing it … wait, didn’t we actually try that and fail? :smack:
Did you support the freestyling at Abu Ghraib, or are you one of those who think that acceptable torture may only be carried out by officers of rank in a lawyer supervised environment?
What accidental kill rate is sufficient to distinguish us from Iran? Or do you deny we’ve tortured people to death? Is it the ‘oops’ factor that makes our torture ‘chalk vs cheese’ for you, or is it just because it’s us doing the dirty deeds?
Squink, you are a crazy person. Also, fuck Iran.
Do you approve of torture when it’s done by Americans? If so, you have no business critcizing Iran when they pull the same shit. I don’t approve of American torture, so can say without hypocrisy, ‘fuck Iran’.
I also get annoyed when a bunch of hypocrites try to climb up on a moral hobby-horse and pretend their shit don’t stink. Fuck them too.
Thanks for posting this. I’ve long believed you were this fucking dumb and this much of a complete jackass, but could only cobble together actual proof. Now we have posts like this in this thread.
That makes things much easier.
I find this way of “debating” so annoying.
‘A’ is bad.
Yeah well ‘B’ is almost as bad/just as bad/ worse!