I think it’s entirely possible for there to be an organized rebel (oxymoron!) group and a kinda-sorta terrorist version. No matter if it’s in a war or an IT company, if there’s a board that needs to make decisions there will be people who are mad about the decision and want to do their own thing. This was both Saw and the Rogue group. The Rebel board decided to stand pat, these guys said “Screw this, I’m doing it anyway.”
If we’re going to believe the ending to R1 leads right up to ANH, then why would Leia need to stop at Tatooine at all? Shouldn’t she original plan for her to just jet off to Alderaan and give the plans to her father? What would having Obi-Wan there really accomplish? I think once she escaped from the battle she thought “Well I can’t go home with the evidence…maybe I’ll go to a (seemingly) random planet and palm it off as a diplomatic mission for whatever reason”. It’s not much of a theory, and I don’t really believe it myself, but it’s all I got.
I really want to know the original idea for the movie, before the reshoots. Just how violent WAS this thing?
As for Tatooine, it was clear to me that Bail and Leia considered recruiting Obi-Wan as a very high priority – possibly even as high as getting the Death Star plans back to Yavin IV.
Yes, Mon Mothma and Bail specifically talked about bringing Bail’s Jedi friend back into play, and Bail said he’d give the mission to someone he trusts with his life.
And I absolutely believe Leia is cocky enough to continue with her mission to get Obi-Wan, even though she’s also got the sole copy of the Death Star plans on her ship.
What the name “Rebel Alliance” has always hinted at and what the show “Rebels” seems to be building towards and this movie also supports is that the “Alliance” represents a group of groups that were all fighting the Empire individually banding together. It feels like this was a new development at the time of this movie.
You have an Imperial Flagship on your ass. What options do you really have? To me getting the Death Star plans in the hands of a Jedi Master sounds like a good one, better than leading them back to the Rebels’ base.
I thought Tarkin looked okay, but it was weird seeing him and knowing he’s dead. Did they expect the audience to not notice? Did his relatives agree to it? Did they get paid? Can/should movie makers resurrect and zombify deceased actors?
Leia was faker looking, and kinda creepy.
I’d have been okay if they’d used new actors.
Please tell me the Han Solo movie isn’t going to be a CGI’d Han.
The naval term pre-dates the car by a couple hundred years.
It’s like a explained to someone in another thread. A “star destroyer” is so named because it is a “destroyer” class warship that travels between the stars. Not because it destroys stars.
Although that kind of reminds me of a Doctor Who episode where he explains to his companion that they don’t call it a “space restaurant” or “space hat”. It’s just a “restaurant” or a “hat”.
Why? It’s not any sillier than land creatures like humans naming a car named after another land creature like the “Jaguar” or “Lynx”.
Although it does seem kind of silly referring to the ship by it’s generic class/type, rather than it’s name or call sign. Like saying “tell that big cruiser to put fire on that star destroyer over there”. Kind of like someone wanted to make sure everyone knew what toy to ask for.
I kind of feel like the new Star Wars films have a bit too much of ships crashing into stuff without getting damaged. Like the Falcon bouncing off everything at high speed in The Force Awakens or the rebel transport bouncing off Darth Vader’s star destroyer in Rogue One. Star Destroyer or not, I kind of feel like you don’t want hundreds of tons of spaceship crashing into your ship at orbital speeds as you decelerate from light speed. Remember the Executor lost it’s entire bridge and went careening into the Death Star II in Jedi from a fighter smashing into it. These ships aren’t indestructible.
On the other hand, a Hammerhead is a species. I guess it’s a species nickname because they’re actually Ithorians but nobody is naming starship classes after a human nickname like Ugly Bags of Mostly Water Class or Hairless Ape Class. I’m being a little silly here and getting a little too deep than I want to get thinking about this.
With the Star Destroyer wrecking into the other ships, it was a badass moment. I don’t think the rebel ships were worth much after that.
With the Hammerhead, is it established that the ship is actually reinforced at the front or anything? Seems like a crazy idea to intentionally ram another ship like that but it makes for an interesting battle.
The estate of Peter Cushing and Carrie Fisher were both thanked in the credits.
The credits say that Ingvild Deila played Princess Leia. Was she just a stand in so they could CGI Carries face on her?
In this case, though, it makes sense: this isn’t a pre-existing fleet with an established list of ships and clear command structure. This is, “Get every ship we can find and get it to Scarif now!” And we know from the scene earlier that the Alliance really is a collection of disparate planets and races that are still figuring out how to work together. Admiral Fishperson likely had never worked with that corvette at all, and certainly hasn’t had time to learn the names of the all the ships and crews that are suddenly under his command for that particular battle.
The Executor had also just lost its shields after taking sustained fire from several Rebel capital ships - and the transport that smears itself across the bow of the SD in Rogue One probably wasn’t in much better shape. The SD, on the other hand, has full shields. Well, probably a lot less than “full” after wiping out that transport, but at that point in the battle, it hardly mattered anymore.
Are Ithorians ever called Hammerheads in-universe? Or was that just what they slapped on the toy before they’d gotten around to writing twelve-volume biographies for every character that appears on screen for half a second?
That planet was the same planet where Anakin Skywalker was left to die at the bank of the lava by Obi-Wan. So Darth (nee Skywalker) built his castle on the place he was defeated and nearly killed. The guy has issues.
No, the estate of Peter Cushing and Carrie Fisher. Some years ago, Cushing and Fisher merged into a single life form that sadly perished, leaving behind a sizeable estate. The current actress “Carrie Fisher” is an advanced automaton created to appear in The Force Awakens.
Or, there should have been a comma in N9IWP’s sentence somewhere.
I will also point out that both of my companions to the movie had no idea that Cushing has been dead for 20 years, and didn’t notice anything odd about his portrayal.
