Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)

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https://twitter.com/WhereisRussia/status/1569007300391600128

Funny how the airfields, ammunition depots and fuel tanks seems to spontaneously combust when in Russian hands but are totally fireproof when Ukrainians approach :thinking:

Hopefully so. I assume that Putin realizes that at some point the people whose turn it is to be disappeared are the same people doing the disappearing. Obviously they won’t do that to themselves, and instead it would fall on Putin to be next in line. Going peacefully is a good way to avoid that.

If the Russian populace was smart they’d start doxing the police who try to enforce Putin’s directive to silence them.

Russians fleet fires dozens of Cruise missiles at Easten Ukrainian infrastructure targets.
(Six months too late comrade).
It won’t stop the offensive, but maybe make the Russians feel a bit better.

https://twitter.com/intelpsf/status/1569016248654041088?s=21&t=0hh8cWgClqySMOm0Kyc6ew

https://twitter.com/INTELPSF/status/1569017898655416320?t=PB0fMmEw9ytVlMjUcfI_PA&s=19

Ok, which idiot is thinking of using tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine?

out of date :wink: :
Ukrainian forces have reportedly liberated the border check points near Kudiivka. So they are right on the border … that is straight north of Kharkiv … abouth half-way to Belgorod and no russian army to be seen …

obligatory isw graph for orientation (possibly slow to load or wont load at all):

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Here a google-map:

so they now hold both main roads to Belgorod in Russia - will they, or will they not???

What are the chances the Russians were ordered to hightail it and ignore what they’re leaving behind because leadership plans to draw the Ukrainians into the area and then hit them with tactical nukes? Is the Kremlin that crazy/desperate?

that is Hitler proclaiming the ENDSIEG … with the red army entering berlin

amongst the numerous things they lack - is the understanding that it will be Russia who pays for all that

… sooner than many might thing

mostly russian idiots, I will guess???

tactical nukes are not material in that type of battle (from a military pov) … OK they will punch ugly 1-2km holes into the countryside … but the Ukr. have taken back 5000+ sq km over the weekend … so they are all over the place—

they are useful if you have high concentration of troops in smallish places …

The second part, hit them with nukes is very unlikley.
The first part, withdrawn and then hit the now exposed flanks and try to get into their rear, plus pound them from the air, is fairly standard. But do they have armoured reserves to hit the Ukranians in the region? Even if they did, how good is their planning logistics and execution? It hasn’t been the best (to put it mildly) thus far.

Tactical nukes would be used to hit Ukrainians marshalling areas, logistics and supply depots as well as bridgeheads.
Of course regular conventional airpower should be doing that already but isn’t.

you fail to reckon that currently 20.000+ russians are running like headless chicken with the ONLY desire: NOT To DIE. … Send 30.000 extra troops and you will have 50.000 chicken running

let’s face it: there is nothing more uplifting for a fresh (55+ years old) alcoholic soldier - who doesnt want to fight anyway, than to see all of your fellow soldiers running around bleeding, screaming and being generally “unhappy”.

Yeah … NOW we will show the Ukrainians!!!

I’d like to see the free world round up every kerosene space heater on shelves and just ship them to Europe. Make it another Berlin Airlift. Just keep sending them over to Europe for the next 4 months along with a stockpile of Kerosene.

And Putin can shove his natural gas pipelines up his ass. Not only would I laugh at him cutting off natural gas I’d destroy the terminals in Europe so he COULDN’T sell it if he wanted to.

If the people of Russia want to live a normal life then they know what needs to be done. Get rid of the entire Putin regime Mussolini style, apologize for the war and we’ll create another Marshal plan that brings them back into the world community.

And as far as nukes are concerned, I’d be worried about a proxy strike from Iran on the US as part of an Iranian/Russian alliance. Their leadership is crazy enough to use it knowing the consequences.

Safer. Not entirely safe. That will take awhile, because the reactor doesn’t cool down instantly.

Not that there was ever a possibility of a nuclear blast, although a conventional chemical-induced one was a possibility. And there is still the potential for someone to cause mischief was radioactive waste or other “hot” stuff there.

Sucks to be them, then. Actions have consequences.

That would imply that the Russian high command actually have a plan for the current situation. They may–but it seems fairly unlikely.

It also implies they have control of their troops. The only skin in the came for Russian Soldiers is NOT to fight and come home alive.

Ukraine has better air defenses than I realized. I recall they got some anti missile equipment in their military aid this summer?

A few missiles hit Ukraine power grid.

Pretty sure Edmonton is in Alberta.

Circumspection as some non-vatniks are included on Russian state media:

Ukraine forces did great in the north east offensive. Luckily the Russian area on the southern flank of it just melted away. Seems it was not very well fortified or supplied for any real defense. Cut way down on Ukraine losses that might have occurred. Russia will have to devote more serious amount of forces more directly on the Luhansk border. Pinning them there.
I suppose what managed to retreat from Kharkiv area will be redeployed and concentrated along that line. To lose any territory of the Luhansk or more of Donetsk Oblasts would be even worse loss of face for Russia. I am sure they are beefing up forces along those fronts.
I am wondering what the next Ukraine moves will be.
Can they hold what they have taken, while being able to allot forces for more offensives? Is the Russian 3rd Army that much of a force? Maybe it can be used to bolster slightly behind the lines, leaving the more experienced forces to move more freely, with more material?
Will Russian forces push north from their southern line in Donetsk Oblast? Try to come in behind Ukraine entrenched positions?
Seems Ukraine is calling the shots right now. Russia trying to guess what next and where.