Still, like most jobs, experience helps. The guys that I know have gotten better at, uh, summoning their inner resources, so to speak, when the outer resources are lacking.
Hm 45 minutes of body massage and a female happy ending instead of actual intercourse?
Perhaps if he was good at body massage and cunnilingus both I would consider it - my physioterrorist costs about 200 for a full body massage and no happy ending.
Do not want. Butterface. His body is like my bf’s (thought bf not that defined in the stomach) but this dude has a caveman face. But I also would never want to see a gigolo even if I was hard up (hah) for some man lovin. It would just be weird because I don’t want to have sex with people I don’t know/like.
I didn’t accuse you of anything.
The tone is all in your head. I didn’t get annoyed until I started typing in caps. They were simple questions. They still are, if you go back and reread w/o getting all worked up about it. Can such a small thing really cause such extreme offense? :eek: (sorry, I’m digressing).
I never accused you (or anyone else here) of “aggravated misogyny”. As for the rest of your indignation… perhaps you should try deep breathing exercises. There isn’t a shaking head emoticon, so I’ll use this one instead. 
What responsibility? For your misinterpretation of my “misinterpretation” of your quoting the word “horrifying”, used by your friends to describe their female clients? My puzzlement came from the use of that descriptor, applied (so it seemed to me) to all female clients of male sex workers. I did not realize your friends meant only the smallest of sample sizes–and where does it say that again-how are we to know just how many female clients contacted your friends?
My assumption that most people do not find male clients of female sex workers to be “horrifying” is my own, and to me that is a double standard. I fully own that. I have no experience with the sex trade in any form, but I am absolutely sure that some of the men who frequent female sex workers are indeed “horrifying” (but I am digressing). I do not, however, find you lissener,horrifying.
Nowhere did I say I thought you subscribed to that double standard–I stated that such a double standard exists and I (repeatedly) asked you for clarification re your friends’ comments, to which I got obfuscation and childishness in reply.
Chance is a fine thing, laddie.
To drag this sad thread back on topic, yes, I feel that $300/hour is a tad steep–and if that’s what Markus is charging, he will soon be on foodstamps, if he is not already, IMO.
Jesus Christ, fucking is supposed to bring people together, not tear them apart. Let’s get back to what’s important. Here is a closer picture of “Markus.” He looks very babyish and he has an ill-proportioned face with an egg shaped head and large forehead. David R. Snell, he ain’t. I’m surprised that of all the men out there, this is who they choose to be their flagship gigolo.
I don’t know any women or homosexual men who would be turned on by this fellow. I see this plan backfiring very badly, and harts will be broken.
Nevertheless - if any woman here wants to visit Markus for the purposes of reporting back to us on his lovemaking abilities, I will contribute $75 towards the cost (totally serious.)
anybody have a link to what he sounds like? Or was the interview with him only in print?
I was thinking the same thing! He kind of reminds me of Kat Plus 8’s ex a bit and I always wondered what she saw in him.
Good gravy, this was clear when he wrote that the women who contacted them were horrifying. The women that contacted his friends, not all women everywhere who contact male escorts. Sheesh.
Aha! Is that what the misinterpretation was all about? Your opinion of **lissener **coloring your understanding of his intent, even though that should have been painfully clear from his wording?Now on to the real point of this thread…
Hilarious! Almost exactly my thoughts.
I think his neck is thicker than his cranium. Hard to see the appeal, but he looks sincere, at least. And he’s got those full, luscious lips…
He looks like the issue of a one night stand involving a garden gnome and a gorilla. And the overplucked eyebrows are a bad move that only deepens the tragedy. And what a way to claim your fifteen minutes. His grandchildren will be so proud of him. Lets hope his line ends with him.
I asked one of my friends for his take on one aspect of this discussion.
I’m gonna bump this once because there was initially some interest in this, and I posted the above at an off hour. And because I’d hate to think I got my friend to spill his guts for nothing. 
Well, I’ll chime in. The woman was not only a crone of 40, but apparently she was also homely. That is indeed horrifying. :rolleyes:
I’ve seen enough episodes of Cops to know that doesn’t even come close to the level of horrifying that female prostitutes encounter.
Also, I’m not sure I buy that your friend is interested in women for his romantic relationships. I don’t think I’m the only straight woman who would decline to have a relationship with a guy who made (or had previously made) his living sleeping with men. And if his attitude is that his future committed female partner, possibly his wife and mother of his children, doesn’t need to know that, that gives me the major “Icks.” So I’m thinking he’s narrowing the field in a way that’s not beneficial to a long-run attraction to women.
Granted, I’m no hooker or anything, but I’m grossed out too when 40 year old, unattractive men hit on me. What is wrong for me having a sexual preference?
And it’s perfectly fair: I’m a fat brunette girl- some folks are attracted to me and some folks are probably repulsed by the idea of banging a girl over a size 8. I’m not mad at that- we can’t control what turns us on and off.
I think the issue is that women prostitutes don’t have to be anything resembling turned on for them to be able to perform. Guys have to perform in ways that are difficult to fake.
Difficult, but not impossible. The majority of gay male porn stars are straight men. You get practiced at fantasizing; there is usually porn on a video screen just off camera–kind of like a teleprompter --there’s usually what’s known as a fluffer on hand, and nowadays there is often a little blue pill involved as well. Between those and just concentrating on the mechanics, believe me you’d be surprised what you can fake for $5,000 an hour. In addition to which, while fear and nerves will be a big obstacle to overcome your first time or two, once you learn that you can go through the motions, and still at the end of the day be 100% straight, it’s easier to give yourself over to the simple physicality of the act.
100% of the gay4pay guys that I’ve known have told me that doing gay for pay actually gave them a stronger sense of themselves as straight: they’d gone through the motions that many people assume would “turn” you gay if you did them, and discover that they are still the same person, are still romantically attracted only to women. Anecdotal of course, but still 100% within that caveat.
And while of course many women would find such a past difficult to deal with in a partner, the men that I’ve know who’ve met their female partner during the time they were sex workers, as long as they meet them openly and are open from the start about what they do, of course it limits their field, as it were, but they can still have a strong romantic relationship. I have a friend who’s been doing this now for 8 years. He’s a relatively big name in the industry. He has a wife and two daughters. His wife manages his “personal appearances,” as he prefers to call them. She knows him as an honorable, honest, happy person who has a strange job. They have a great relationship.
Yeah, I was going with the “compartmentalization” theory from earlier too - straight but not being with women = “I’m acting! I’m just doing a job!”
Women are more attracted to abstract ideas than men are.
In a society where maturity is valued in a man, Markus looks immature and seems like he actually is immature (insomuch as anyone who served in the Marines can be considered immature.)
In a society that values success, Markus is publicly putting himself in a position of neediness and desperation (especially since his ex-homeless status is a matter of public record.)
This doesn’t add up to an appealing profile for most women, even if he has the body of a “hunk.”
A fluffer? On hand?
Never mind.