64. Indianapolis Colts
Alameda Te’amu, NT, Washington
Mountain of a man will eventually anchor Indy’s new 3-4 defensive alignment, but for now will back up free agent nose tackle Brandon McKinney. It was either Te’amu or the next top CB, Jayron Hosley.
I like Lewis too, and I think his lack of production in college was due in large measure to never getting comfortable in one roll. He played DE/DT/OLB and never really fit anywhere. He bulked up for the combine thinking DE, but he may be a better OLB. Plus his nickname is “The Hammer”, so he’s got that going for him. He’ll need more discipline and much better coaching, and is more a project than an immediate starter. Grabbing him mid-2nd was a bit higher than I had him, but he could very well be worth it.
Testing positive for pot at the combine is a huge red flag to me; it tells me this guy is either an addict, an idiot, or has self-discipline problems. Or all three.
But I don’t put much stock at all on the other performances, especially the 40. The 10 yard dash would be nice, and the explosive/agility tests aren’t bad. But 99% of the time I’d rather look at their production and how they play football rather than how fast they run in shorts. Putting too much weight on a single day’s performance, whether for the good (Darrius Heyward Bey) or the bad (Jerry Rice), is a big mistake.
Actually I did receive it, I think I must have not gone back far enough in my email chain to find it. At least my assessment of who to pick mirrored yours. (The guy at the top of your board had been drafted a long time ago)
Not sure what RetroVertigo’s availability is but after a couple hours I think anyone who wants to jump in there should go ahead.
I don’t know what st Louis needs most but I’ll jump in if this thing is stuck. Anyone else have an idea for their pick?
They need O line help, but I can’t see a whole lot of value left there (Jeff Allen? Zebrie Sanders?). They could also use a good DT (Brandon Thompson isn’t bad value). CB is another (the aforementioned Jayron Hosley). Vinny Curry isn’t necessary, but he’s my BPA.
Oops. My bad; wondered why he was still available…
Jayron Hosley was someone I was thinking about so let’s do him.
Hard to format from phone. Fix for me please when you post, Hamlet.
St. Louis
Jayrin Hosley
CB, somewhere.
Hamlet up.
From these guys, (scroll all the way down.) maybe FS or some more help on the O-Line? CB was a big area of need, but they signed Cortland Finnegan in FA so that should be fine.
Maybe George Iloka, FS, Boise?
Edit: Never mind. LOL.
CBs never hurt. Especially with Fisher. Finnegan is old enough that a replacement could be groomed anyway, isn’t he?
Even though he’s stupid enough to test positive for pot at the combine (JayRon, not Senor Beef):
Jayron Hosely, CB, Virginia Tech
No one was more excited to see the plethora of O and D lineman being picked at the middle and back end of the second round. That means the Vikings have some nice talent at good value in a position of need for their third round pick. Nice place to be. The BPA, to my mind, is Vinny Curry, and he wouldn’t be a bad pick for the Vikings. But with Jared Allen still tearing it up and Brian Robison having a nice year last year, it’s not desperate. What is desperate is getting a guy to take the pressure off of Christian Ponder and Percy Harvin. After taking a chance on a WR falling to them in the third round, the Vikings have some real talent to choose from. And Curry isn’t that much further ahead than the WR’s I like here:
Alshon Jeffrey. After his outstanding 2010 sophomore season (88, 1517, 9 tds), he was regarded as a potential top 20 pick going into this year. Then his QB got kicked off the team, his RB got injured and defenses focused solely on stopping him, and his production dropped, but is still respectable. He’s got size (6’4", 213) and speed (4.5 range) that scouts like, and he’s dropped about 15 lbs to slim down and hopefully speed up. He’s got the skills and production to succeed in the NFL, but has dropped down draft boards with his bad year. He’s got the upside to be a difference maker in the NFL though.
Chris Givens. Givens broke out this year (83, 1330, 9 tds). He’s a track star (4.35), kick returner, running back, and, this year, a top WR. If NFL teams think his arrow is still pointing up, he’s more than worth an early third round pick. I’d love him to be bigger (he’s 5’11"), but he’s not too short to succeed. A preeminent deep threat, he really could have used another year in college. His game still needs work, but he’s got a lot of upside.
Juron Criner. The guy who made Nick Foles an NFL prospect in some people’s eyes. He had a very productive junior year (82, 1233, 11 td’s), and a pretty good senior one (75, 956, 11 td’s). He’s another big receiver (6’3" 224), but he’s not very fast (4.62). He’s strong, very good at getting yards after the catch, and a big threat in the red zone. His lack of speed and quickness may doom him in the NFL though. Not worth a top of the third round pick, because of that.
Mohammed Sanu. Yet another big (6’2", 215) strong receiver, Sanu has outstanding hands and very good production (115, 1206, 7 td’s) at a run first school. He was thought of as a early second round pick, and then he ran a 4.67 at the combine. After a nice pro day, though, (4.41 and 4.48), he might crawl back up into the second round. He’s smart at finding holes in the defense, he’s reliable with a great catching radius, and has no problem doing the dirty work in the middle of the field. There certainly are questions that he won’t be able to physically dominate in the NFL like he did in college, though, and his burst may limit his upside. But if you’re looking for the prototypical WR #2, he could be your guy. Nice value at the top of the third round.
I think it comes down to Alshon Jeffrey and Mohammed Sanu. And when in doubt, I go for the guy who seems more professional and has a higher floor.
I’m really like how this draft shook out for the Vikings. And by liking, I mean I don’t like to see them grab these guys.
Didn’t remember the pot thing. He’s on my watch list if the Browns don’t go Claiborne. Oh well - decent pick and a suboptimal pick is better than holding up the draft all day.
Browns need a WR and I considered him last round. Happy to see him fall to here. Easy pick.
67. Cleveland Browns
Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
Oakminster is up.
69. Washington Redskins
Zebrie Sanders OT, Florida State
Didn’t play well in the Senior Bowl, but he’s still the player we want. Is big and smart; played in a zone-blocking scheme. Can play either side, or even move over to OG in a pinch. Needs to get stronger and improve in the passing game, but could be an ideal fit in the Shanahans’ offense.
Sorry guys. Last I read this morning we were probably stopping after the 2nd round, so I quit checking for updates.
How DARE you!?
For anyone interested in moving up, Jerry Jones must show he is a ‘wheeler-dealer’ and needs a trade. GM kidchameleon would like another pick this year or next.