The only strawman here is you, the idiot that should be looking for a brain. I made the statement that you’ve posted no evidence, I noticed you didn’t deny it… maybe because there is none you could provide if it was asked for. You make claims with no evidence and demand evidence from people who disagree then hand wave any evidence away. We know the truth, you are a racist. Hopefully your kind will disappear one day.
How about this one, then?
Your complaining that New Deal is posting in his own thread?
Dude, you’re the one egging him on with threads in the same vein.
Neither can you quote any “lie” of me, or anyone else for that matter, just claiming it to be a lie, doesn’t make it a lie.
You are still weaselling around in half-truths, made up garbage data and straight out made up lies.
To no surprise to me, you clearly have not learned anything in the last couple of hours.
Stop lying and finely admit that you are a lying-weaselling-fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-racist-moron!!!
Otherwise,** SHUT the FUCK up**.
It makes absolutely no sense what you are writing here.
And don’t quote that straw man theory again for the 638th time.
The reason you like that made up shit is properly because that thing on your shoulders is filled with spoiled straw.
I find it funny that people are still trying to argue with NDD and brazil84. It’s like talking to two pieces of petrified dinosaur shit. It’s not going to do any good, and frankly, they’re both capable of similar levels of rational thought.
If countless examples of scientific study and genetic analysis aren’t going to convince them, nothing will. It wouldn’t matter if the Aryan Nation came out tomorrow and proclaimed “After worldwide study, oops, we were wrong!” They’d still hold on to their bigoted thoughts.
Looking at the quality and irrefutability of the scientific cites posted by many people in this thread, and the fact that NDD and brazil84 haven’t acknowledged one single piece of this scientific evidence shown to them, while reiterating horrible leaps in logic from their bigoted positions pretty much shows that they are lost causes.
NDD, maybe you should change your handle to Coprolite. It fits you.
As much as anyone else, I’d love for NDD and his tag-along pal brazil84 to shut the fuck up forever. They’re both profoundly irritating “debaters” who resolutely and purposefully fail to comprehend why their just-so theories of race don’t count as science, no matter how patiently the explanation is dumbed down and spoon-fed to them. Both of them are clearly happy to have found a forum that will allow them to celebrate their bigotry with impunity as long as they stay within the letter of the law, and the board is absolutely made worse by their presence.
Despite all that, and sick as I am of seeing the same tired “argument” rehashed over and over, I think banning them would be a bad precedent. At his current rate, soon enough 84 will have nobody left to talk to on the board anyway, and NDD strikes me as the kind of intellectual powerhouse who might be hit by a train while trying to slip around a signal arm.
Serious question here…why does it bother you so much? I mean, it’s not like he or they are getting any traction here with their bullshit. Rather like CTers, they are given short shrift here, and generally come out of these threads humiliated and completely discredited. And, generally, that carries over into other threads as well. So…why does it bug you? I think this is a perfect place for the few idiotic racists and CT nutters to bring their bullshit and have their asses handed to them…over and over again. If they aren’t smart enough to see how badly they are getting beat up here (and I freely concede, just skimming the latest NDD wankfest, that he’s got an intelligence rating of about .8 gonzos, which is only slightly smarter than a massively brain damaged sponge), most posters and at a guess most lurkers on THIS board certainly are. It’s better, IMHO, to shine the bright light into the dark corners than to let them fester by avoiding distasteful and evil topics like racism.
JMHO there, FWIW.
-XT
It will do good if you lay out your argument clearly; respond to what I actually said (as opposed to what you wish or imagine you say); and don’t rely on special pleading. So far nobody has done so, but that’s probably because the other side of the debate is simply wrong.
Can you identify a piece of scientific evidence which contradicts or undermines my position; which has been shown to me; and which I haven’t acknowledged?
Because I suspect you are lying.
Please quote me where I make a “horrible leap in logic.” I doubt you can do it, since you are most likely reasoning backwards from your conclusion.
I reiterate: If everyone is “misrepresenting” your position, then maybe you’re not communicating it properly.
Uh oh! b84 suspects someone’s lying!
Enjoy your tea party, fucking weirdo.
If that’s the case, then it should be pretty easy to quote me where I said something that was reasonably misinterpreted.
Anyway, you still haven’t answered my questions from before:
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How does it contradict or undermine my argument that DNA existed before it was discovered?
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Do you agree that height and body shape can be affected by socioeconomic status?
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Assuming that eye and skin color are not affected by socioeconomic status (which I basically agree with), then then why does it follow that my “special pleading” argument is nonsense?
If you answer, it may shed some light on your arguments. I’m starting to think that you are even stupider than GIGOBuster.
And also, they could introduce some Oriental Despotism!
I’m afraid they may be from Greece, and therefor the victim of Negro genes.
Um, I’m stating an opinion, not lying. Christ, you with the lying accusations.
And I’m not going to argue with you, as it’s patently obvious it will do no good. If 54 pages of sound reasoned argument aren’t going to get you to honestly look at your opinions, me adding additional stuff isn’t going to help either. To be fair, NDD is far worse than you in the leaps of logic. But both of you are over the top willfully ignorant.
Hope you’re having a wonderful day, and enjoy the rest of the week!
If your definition of racist includes anyone who doesn’t reflexively dismiss the race/IQ studies without any further thought or consideration, then you have a very shitty definition of racist.
Lol, among other things you asserted that I hadn’t acknowledged one single piece of (certain) scientific evidence shown to me.
This is a factual assertion about the discussion which has taken place. An assertion which should be easy enough to back up if it were true. And your claim that it’s just an “opinion” doesn’t make it any less of a lie (assuming it’s not true).
Lol, nice excuse for not backing up your claim.
How’s the family? Doing well? Good. Have a biscuit!
I agree with Broomstick all the way here.
Then on a more technical note: For me, “troll” has the connotation of faking the position. Trolls on news sites, writing incendiary comments, usually reveal themselves as poseurs to extremism.
Well, the GD thread prompting this thread has attracted a scientifically literate poster pitted before.
I have a question to the race realists. In the Origin of Species, Darwin claims inbreeding leads to a decline in fecundity. Wouldn’t allopatric isolation lead to the same phenomenon?
Also, wouldn’t a “black subspecies” living in a European culture be subject to the same selection pressures and thus have the same evolutionary trend? Or are there preordained genes which allow for faster evolution? It seems like another example of the just world hypothesis at play.
Finally, I watched Brazil yesterday. Not a single ethnic minority to be seen. Surely the ideal society to live in, no?