lol. Can’t wait for his rejoinder.
You do not improve a bad argument by yelling.
I do not have the time or the inclination to respond to every flame attack. My argument, which is fairly easy to understand, has never been refuted, only yelled at.
The races can be easily distinguished by DNA testing. By every objective criteria they differ in average intelligence and crime rates. This can be easily verified using credible sources. I have done so repeatedly.
Those who maintain that these differences are not biological maintain something for which there is no evidence at all. If the differences were exclusively, or even primarily environmental they would be more flexible.
No. They cannot be. That phylogenetic tree totally destroys this statement. Many populations of sub-Saharan Africans (“Negroes”) are closer to Eurasians then to many other populations of sub-Saharan Africans. This is a fact. Do you deny this fact?
No. Not every objective measure. Just the ones you haven’t ignored. What about Nigerian immigrants? The studies that show the gap is closing? The fact that many Latin American countries have higher murder rates than most African countries?
And even if every single statistic showed that “blacks” had lower achievements and higher murder rates in all cases (they don’t), it still would provide zero information about genetics.
Every single citation in this thread shows otherwise. You keep flinging poo but none of it is sticking. At some point you have to conclude that either:
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[li]You have no clue what you are talking about[/li][li]You are desperately trying to obfuscate the facts because you are a bigot[/li][li]You are trolling[/li][/ol]
Really, at this point those are the only reasonable conclusions. I’ve lost my ability to care which one is true.
It finally got you to acknowledge the statement rather than continuing to ignore it.
It’s been completely refuted, repeatedly. But you refuse to acknowledge it. Hence the yelling.
This is a lie.
This is moronic.
NDD: The moon is made of delicious cheese.
Everybody else: No, it’s not. We’ve got an abundance of evidence, both direct and indirect that refutes the notion of lunar dairy products.
NDD: Who cares if it’s milking moon cows, moon goats, or moon snakes? It’s still cheese.
Everybody else: What do farm animals have to do with it? And moon snakes? That makes even less sense than your original crazy notion.
NDD: So, you can’t refute my point?
Everybody else: We already refuted your point.
NDD: See this moon rock. It’s clearly a cheese like substance.
Everybody else: WTF?
B84: I’m going to jump in hear and mention you can milk snake venom.
Everybody else: Great, another loon. So, what? Irrelevance aside, you can’t make snake venom into cheese since there’s no milk in it.
B84: But they call it “milking” for a reason. And it sure looks like milk.
Everybody else: Well, why don’t you drink some of it.
NDD: Well, the important thing is that the moon can be distinguished from other celestial bodies by its dairy composition.
grmbl plagiarist… 
Wow, I must have had that in the back of my mind. My apologies.
I suppose this is the evidence of genetic superiority of Anti’s over Bob’s.
Don’t worry about it, mate. Great minds think alike and shit :).
I’d like to tack Debaser onto the et. al.
What a mome.
It’s not my work. You are making a claim and I am asking you to back it up or take it back.
In other words, put up or shut up. Although somehow I expect you will do neither.
But did he answer the specific question of mine which he quoted? It’s a simple yes or no question.
And what exactly is NDD’s theory in your view?
What difference does that make? Your claim is that the statement “a group doesn’t exist” means that “it doesn’t exist” Your explanation is circular and meaningless.
Umm, does that mean yes or no? I mean, one could easily set up simple criteria to define “black” For example, you could define “black people” as anyone who responds “yes” to the question “are you black?”
Are you able to define what genes or genetic factors define “Han Chinese” and “Ashkenazim”? If so, please do so. If not, then would you agree that by your reasoning, it’s impossible to compare Ashkenazim and Han Chinese as genetic populations?
And would you agree that by the same reasoning “blacks” exist as a self-defined group?
I see that you have misstated NDD’s argument. But I would imagine you take a lot of satisfaction in attacking strawmen.
No, you are missing the point. Which is that you are unable to set forth precise criteria for whether a group “exists as a genetic grouping.” Because obviously it’s just a smokescreen for your special pleading.
Of course I understand – but you are missing the point.
I’m not the only one. I thought you were making claims about genetics too. Are you not?
It’s a simple, reasonable question:
Please answer it. (Or admit that it’s just more smokescreen for your special pleading.)
And what are the “distinctive common genetic traits” for Han Chinese? What are they for Ashkenazim? And if you cannot point to any, then by your reasoning, any conclusions about the genetic makeup of these groups are meaningless.
Agree, but it can be quantified reasonably well. Well enough to observe that like height, there is a strong genetic influence. You haven’t articulated any reason why intelligence is unique among measurable traits in that one should not expect it to vary among races and ethnic groups like pretty much any other measurable trait.
Lol, sorry that my pointing out the truth makes you so angry.
Nice excuse to cover up your lack of response on the merits.
What flame attack? You asked me for data to back up one of my statements. I provided it. You did not respond. I asked you for a response. You refused. I pointed it out. I am still waiting for an intelligent response from you addressing what I actually said. You have not provided one. At no point in this exchange did I flame you. I used a large font to make it more obvious that you are ignoring my data. That’s not a flame.
So I ask you again: given the cites that I provided, do you agree with my initial assertion that there is more genetic variation within African populations than other ethnic groups? If you do not agree, explain why my cited data is wrong. If you do agree, acknowledge that you were wrong.
It’s one or the other. There’s no other option. Except, of course, your childish dancing around the issue that you continue to perform, which is making you lose whatever tiny shreds of credibility were still clinging to you.
Care to summarize this important “history” of which I am ignorant?
So Brazzy,
Once again, what “simple questions” did I refuse to answer?
I honestly don’t remember, but if you’re telling the truth, rather than covering up for a time I embarrassed you it should be easy to point them out.
Thanks
Mmmm, far too simplistic to answer, as height is a measurement in only one dimension. One.
We also know that intelligence is affected by hundreds, if not thousands of genes; some identified, most not. And all evidence shows that intelligence is in part a culmination of these genes, each of which on their own, only affects a minuscule portion or area of cognition.
So, to that end, you’ll have to tell me how many dimensions of measurement does it take to determine intelligence in a comprehensive, objective, and meaningful manner?
Once you can provide a sufficient answer for this figure, you’ll need to assess how many genes affect those dimensions?
When you get that far, tell me how these specific genes are spread across a random cross-section of the world population. At least a few thousand individual samples will be necessary for an adequate control group.
Now, compare these results with a sufficient sample from any race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or whatever arbitrary definition for a group of people you care to examine and let me know what the results are.
OR,
You can just look at IQ tests and crime rates. Practically the same thing.
I’m not angry, I’m simply making a factual statement. You’re a laughingstock on this board for all the reasons I mentioned, and rightly so. "Lol"ing about it just makes you look like even more of a dipshit.
As I said to your fellow fucking moron NDD, this is the Pit, you fucking moron. The Pit is for ridiculing assholes like you, not for debating them. It’s pointless to debate you on the merits, because you’re ignorant, you’re stupid, you’re a liar, and you’ll never, ever acknowledge when you’ve lost a debate. And you’ve lost every debate you’ve ever engaged in here.
Recorded.