I’d be hugely excited to play, if y’all don’t mind having someone in the game who’s never played before. Put me on the reserve list or something, and if you can’t fill up the game with real players stick me in a slot somewhere.
I have one recommendation, White Lightning: avoid Austria. Austria is extremely difficult for a newbie to play - hell, it’s even a challenge for us veterans, who’ve snagged the ‘good’ countries on either end of the board.
Germany and Italy aren’t exactly prizes, but you’re more likely with either of them to at least last long enough to get a feel of how the game’s played, and will be more likely to enjoy the game enough to want to play again sometime. For a newbie Austria, the game can be quick and brutal.
I know and it pisses me off. I did exactly what I said, attacked nobody, and this is the thanks I get?
Anyhow, we need one more player in Aberration, Sicily had to drop out ( pffft! Reallife. :rolleyes:). Whoever takes me up on it, you’re in a pretty strong position, and have a build coming pryor to the start of 1903, please lemme know.
Any recommendations on good newbie guides? The one they have linked from the front page of the Dip Pouch is piss-poor as any sort of introduction for a rank amateur, and the sheer volume of available information is, at this point, overwhelming.
Additionally, I imagine it’d be helpful to get a real quick primer of what’s expected of me as far as etiquette in the game we’ll be playing? I mean, I take it that backstabbing is a pretty crucial part of the game, but to what extent is it accepted to tell bald lies and such?
Thanks. I’m sure I’ll have more questions as I learn more.
I will, of course, take your guys’ advice in avoiding Austria and opt for Germany. And you can disregard the request for a good site for newbies, as I’ve run across Richard Sharp’s book on the game, and it’s exactly what I was looking for. Thanks anyway.
I must say I’m getting pretty excited about this. Thanks.
God, this is embarrassing.
I must have noticed the first time through that Waverly was talking to Weirddave about his Aberrant game, and justly assumed that his post had no impact on my life. Subsequently coming back to review the thread, I suppose I somehow thought that his claiming of “Sicily” was some sort of jargonic reference to Italy in Jonathan Chance’s game.
I’m sorry. I’d like Italy again, please. I’m actually pretty happy about it because that’s the position I really wanted anyway. Thanks. I promise I won’t post again till someone else does.
I followed your link, WL; I think he’s got some good things to say, altho he gets into highfalutin’ and rarely-used tactics a bit fast, IMO.
But one thing I’ve got to comment on:
The copyright date on this work is 1978. I was first stabbed by a female player in December 1971. I suspect it may not have been pure chance that he’d never been stabbed by a woman; it probably had something to do with the nature of the women who played Diplomacy in the circles he traveled in - which is not the same as chance. Suffice it to say that women who develop a taste for Dip are quite capable of stabbing.
I think Austria is a good country to play but the main problem Austria has, paradoxically, is when there are inexperienced players.
In my opinion, inexperienced players do not understand the importance of keeping the wicked witches (Turkey and England) contained. An inexperienced Russia likes to ally with Turkey and that alliance benefits Turkey more than Austria. Turkey and Russia attack Austria and Turkey heads West with fleets.
An inexperienced Italy does not understand the true, bad position they are in and does not try to work closely with Austria. Many times, in fact, Italy attacks Austria which seals the doom for both Italy and Austria.
Weirdly, Austria does better with experienced neighbors.
Why, in Dave’s aberration game, I was just stabbed by a woman not 10 days ago. I thought it might be enjoyable in a deviant, dom/sub sort of way.
It wasn’t.
It sucked.
Re: Fibbing
In Nate’s Dip 934 game, I didn’t to any large back stabs. However, I did promise things I didn’t deliver to Turkey and to Russia to ensure that I kept or took certain territories. (the North Sea and Warsaw/Moscow, IIRC).
My only piece of advice on that is that if you are going to stab somebody, do it big. Don’t break an alliance for one measly supply center.