SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Three

Crap, I guess I sort of glossed over this when you suggested it back in post #7 and we never got a discussion going about it. Sorry.
I haven’t thought about the proposal and don’t yet have an opinion, but if we adopt it we’ll have to start rolling over the money from this year’s budget, not last year’s, as several people (myself included) blew huge chunks of money on near-worthless players on the “use it or lose it” theory.

Other than that, what does everyone think about the idea? Possible wrinkles: we could split the difference and say that you roll over some fraction (e.g. half) of your unused budget. Or we could go the other way and treat it like money in the bank, earning interest, which would lead to some interesting dilemmas.

I think if I cut Moss he’s going to unretire and go to some weird place and put up one great year.

I’m completely in favor of rolling over FAAB money. Otherwise, I just blow it all at the end of the year on some guy who most likely is a scrub. Rolling it over gives this league even more of a “Dynasty” feel.

I agree.

Yep, same.

I would say just roll over the budget in full every year. Earning interest or fractional roll overs seems overly complicated.

Also agreed.

I hate the rollover idea.

Can I get a list of my players?

Heh, guess I missed one. Just FYI, you can also see the rosters on yahoo’s archived league page, here. One last time, here’s the whole (hopefully correct list):
Petey (Isotopes)
Peyton Manning (Ind - QB)
Joe Flacco (Bal - QB)

Darren McFadden (Oak - RB)
Peyton Hillis (Cle - RB)
Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB)
LaDainian Tomlinson (NYJ - RB)
Fred Jackson (Buf - RB)
Montario Hardesty (Cle - RB)

Bernard Berrian (Min - WR)
Dwayne Bowe (KC - WR)
Mardy Gilyard (StL - WR)
Stevie Johnson (Buf - WR)
Brandon Lloyd (Den - WR)
Derrick Mason (NYJ - WR)
Damian Williams (Ten - WR)
Roy Williams (Chi - WR)

John Carlson (Sea - TE)
Todd Heap (Ari - TE)
Bo Scaife (Cin - TE)
Jeremy Shockey (Car - TE)

David Akers (SF - K)
Rob Bironas (Ten - K)
John Kasay (Car - K)

Dallas (Dal - DEF)
Indianapolis (Ind - DEF)
Stringer (We DO HGH)
Michael Vick (Phi -QB)
Jay Cutler (Chi - QB)
David Garrard (Jac - QB)

Arian Foster (Hou - RB)
Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
Ray Rice (Bal - RB)
Kenneth Darby (StL -RB)
Anthony Dixon (SF - RB)
Javarris James (Ind - RB)
Rashad Jennings (Jac - RB)
Marshawn Lynch (Sea - RB)
Mike Tolbert (SD - RB)
Derrick Ward (Hou - RB)

Hakeem Nicks (NYG - WR)
Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR)
Marques Colston (NO - WR)
Malcom Floyd (SD - WR)
Pierre Garcon (Ind - WR)
Mike Thomas (Jac - WR)

Aaron Hernandez (NE - TE)
Heath Miller (Pit - TE)
Zach Miller (Oak - TE)

Adam Vinatieri (Ind - K)

Cleveland (Cle - DEF)
New England (NE - DEF)
Ellis Dee (New York Fanboys)
Eli Manning (NYG - QB)
Mark Sanchez (NYJ - QB)
Tim Tebow (Den - QB)

Steven Jackson (StL - RB)
Jahvid Best (Det - RB)
Pierre Thomas (NO - RB)
Julius Jones (NO - RB)

Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR)
Mario Manningham (NYG - WR)
Josh Morgan (SF - WR)
Jacoby Ford (Oak - WR)
Brad Smith (NYJ - WR)
Ted Ginn Jr. (SF - WR)
Michael Jenkins (Atl - WR)
Stefan Logan (Det - WR,RB)
Jason Avant (Phi - WR)
Earl Bennett (Chi - WR)
Micheal Spurlock (TB - WR)

Antonio Gates (SD - TE)
Dustin Keller (NYJ - TE)
Kevin Boss (NYG - TE)

Garrett Hartley (NO - K)
Lawrence Tynes (NYG - K)

New York (NYJ - DEF)
San Diego (SD - DEF)
SenorBeef (Exploding Pancakes)
Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
Kyle Orton (Den - QB)
Rex Grossman (Was - QB)

LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB)
Ryan Mathews (SD - RB)
LeGarrette Blount (TB - RB)
Jerome Harrison (Phi - RB)
James Starks (GB - RB)

Braylon Edwards (NYJ - WR)
Lance Moore (NO - WR)
Johnny Knox (Chi - WR)
Demaryius Thomas (Den - WR)
Davone Bess (Mia - WR)
James Jones (GB - WR)
Louis Murphy (Oak - WR)
Randy Moss (Ten - WR)

Jermichael Finley (GB - TE)
Tony Gonzalez (Atl - TE)
Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)
Jacob Tamme (Ind - TE)
Jimmy Graham (NO - TE)

Nate Kaeding (SD - K)

Atlanta (Atl - DEF)
Minnesota (Min - DEF)
Oakland (Oak - DEF)
Hamlet (CuteWiddleBunny)
Philip Rivers (SD - QB)
Matthew Stafford (Det - QB)
Matt Hasselbeck (Sea - QB)
Derek Anderson (Ari - QB)

Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)
Ryan Grant (GB - RB)
Thomas Jones (KC - RB)
Donald Brown (Ind - RB)
Tim Hightower (Ari - RB)
Chester Taylor (Chi - RB)
Justin Forsett (Sea - RB)
Toby Gerhart (Min - RB)

Brandon Marshall (Mia - WR)
Percy Harvin (Min - WR)
Steve Smith (Car - WR)
Jacoby Jones (Hou - WR)
Brandon Tate (NE - WR)
Austin Collie (Ind - WR)
Chad Ochocinco (Cin - WR)

Vernon Davis (SF - TE)
Chris Cooley (Was - TE)

Dan Carpenter (Mia - K)
Ryan Longwell (Min - K)

Miami (Mia - DEF)
Cincinnati (Cin - DEF)
RNATB (Nine Inch Neils)
Matt Schaub (Hou - QB)
Carson Palmer (Cin - QB)

Michael Turner (Atl - RB)
Cedric Benson (Cin - RB)
Carnell Williams (TB - RB)
Kevin Smith (Det - RB)
Reggie Bush (NO - RB)
Jason Snelling (Atl - RB)
Jerious Norwood (Atl - RB)
Bernard Scott (Cin - RB)
Ryan Torain (Was - RB)
Brian Westbrook (SF - RB)

DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR)
Vincent Jackson (SD - WR)
Steve Smith (NYG - WR)
Anquan Boldin (Bal - WR)
Jordan Shipley (Cin - WR)
Robert Meachem (NO - WR)
Anthony Armstrong (Was - WR)

Owen Daniels (Hou - TE)
Marcedes Lewis (Jac - TE)

David Buehler (Dal - K)
Mason Crosby (GB - K)

Philadelphia (Phi - DEF)
Tampa Bay (TB - DEF)
furt (Fightin’ Quakers)
Chad Henne (Mia - QB)
Kevin Kolb (Phi - QB)
Jon Kitna (Dal - QB)

Rashard Mendenhall (Pit - RB)
Maurice Jones-Drew (Jac - RB)
Ronnie Brown (Mia - RB)
Darren Sproles (SD - RB)
Christopher Ivory (NO - RB)
Deji Karim (Jac - RB)
Dimitri Nance (GB - RB)
Keiland Williams (Was - RB)

Andre Johnson (Hou - WR)
Mike Wallace (Pit - WR)
Jeremy Maclin (Phi - WR)
Arrelious Benn (TB - WR)
Danny Amendola (StL - WR)
Deon Butler (Sea - WR)
Brandon Gibson (StL - WR)

Brent Celek (Phi - TE)
Brandon Pettigrew (Det - TE)

Shayne Graham (NE - K)

Chicago (Chi - DEF)
Carolina (Car - DEF)
Seattle (Sea - DEF)
St. Louis (StL - DEF)
Justin Bailey (The Gusterrhoids)
Ryan Fitzpatrick (Buf - QB)
Jimmy Clausen (Car - QB)
Donovan McNabb (Was - QB)

Frank Gore (SF - RB)
Matt Forte (Chi - RB)
Brandon Jacobs (NYG - RB)
Willis McGahee (Bal - RB)
Ben Tate (Hou - RB)
Correll Buckhalter (Den - RB)
Mike Goodson (Car - RB)

Roddy White (Atl - WR)
Eddie Royal (Den - WR)
Roscoe Parrish (Buf - WR)
Donald Driver (GB - WR)
Golden Tate (Sea - WR)
Brandon LaFell (Car - WR)
Deion Branch (NE - WR)
Mike Williams (Sea - WR)
Nate Burleson (Det - WR)

Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
Joel Dreessen (Hou - TE)

Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K)
Robbie Gould (Chi - K)

New York (NYG - DEF)
New Orleans (NO - DEF)
VarlosZ
Matt Ryan (Atl - QB)
Tony Romo (Dal - QB)
Colt McCoy (Cle - QB)
Troy Smith (SF - QB)
Jason Campbell (Oak - QB)

Knowshon Moreno (Den - RB)
Jonathan Stewart (Car - RB)
Danny Woodhead (NE - WR,RB)
Brandon Jackson (GB - RB)
Marion Barber (Dal - RB)

Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR)
Calvin Johnson (Det - WR)
Dez Bryant (Dal - WR)
Mike Williams (TB - WR)
Michael Crabtree (SF - WR)
Kenny Britt (Ten - WR)
Anthony Gonzalez (Ind - WR)
Darrius Heyward-Bey (Oak - WR)

Greg Olsen (Chi - TE)
Jermaine Gresham (Cin - TE)

Matt Bryant (Atl - K)

Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF)
Baltimore (Bal - DEF)
Kansas City (KC - DEF)
San Francisco (SF - DEF)
Omniscient (Awful Offals)
Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
Matt Cassel (KC - QB)
Shaun Hill (Det - QB)

DeAngelo Williams (Car - RB)
Joseph Addai (Ind - RB)
Dexter McCluster (KC - WR,RB)
Leon Washington (Sea - RB)
Mike Hart (Ind - RB)
Maurice Morris (Det - RB)
Clinton Portis (Was - RB)
Marcel Reece (Oak - RB)

Wes Welker (NE - WR)
Hines Ward (Pit - WR)
Jabar Gaffney (Den - WR)
Joshua Cribbs (Cle - WR)
Legedu Naanee (SD - WR)
Nate Washington (Ten - WR)
Terrell Owens (Cin - WR)

Dallas Clark (Ind - TE)
Anthony Fasano (Mia - TE)
Michael Hoomanawanui (StL - TE)

Neil Rackers (Hou - K)
Josh Scobee (Jac - K)

Tennessee (Ten - DEF)
Detroit (Det - DEF)
RetroVertigo
Tom Brady (NE - QB)
Josh Freeman (TB - QB)
Sam Bradford (StL - QB)

Chris Johnson (Ten - RB)
Felix Jones (Dal - RB)
Shonn Greene (NYJ - RB)
Michael Bush (Oak - RB)
Tashard Choice (Dal - RB)
Javon Ringer (Ten - RB)

Miles Austin (Dal - WR)
Greg Jennings (GB - WR)
Mike Sims-Walker (Jac - WR)
T.J. Houshmandzadeh (Bal - WR)
Lee Evans (Buf - WR)
Kevin Walter (Hou - WR)
Donnie Avery (StL - WR)
Brian Hartline (Mia - WR)
Danario Alexander (StL - WR)

Benjamin Watson (Cle - TE)
Tony Moeaki (KC - TE)
Dante Rosario (Car - TE)

Josh Brown (StL - K)
Rian Lindell (Buf - K)

Green Bay (GB - DEF)
Washington (Was - DEF)
dalej42 (Warner’s Brothers)
Drew Brees (NO - QB)
Tarvaris Jackson (Min - QB)
John Skelton (Ari - QB)
Vince Young (Ten - QB)
Jake Delhomme (Cle - QB)
Kerry Collins (Ten - QB)

C.J. Spiller (Buf - RB)
Beanie Wells (Ari - RB)
BenJarvus Green-Ellis (NE - RB)
Ricky Williams (Mia - RB)
LaRod Stephens-Howling (Ari - RB)
Fred Taylor (NE - RB)

Sidney Rice (Min - WR)
Devin Hester (Chi - WR)
Steve Breaston (Ari - WR)
Patrick Crayton (SD - WR)
Devery Henderson (NO - WR)
Early Doucet (Ari - WR)
Justin Gage (Ten - WR)
Santana Moss (Was - WR)

Kellen Winslow (TB - TE)
Visanthe Shiancoe (Min - TE)
Tony Scheffler (Det - TE)

Sebastian Janikowski (Oak - K)

Arizona (Ari - DEF)

Who wants to trade me a shitty quarterback?

Has anyone drafted a live Yahoo league this year? I’ve done quite a few mocks and I’ve noticed that there is quite a long lag time to actually enter the draft room.

With the yahoo draft app it gets stuck while loading and then when it seems stuck you hit reload it usually comes right up. Been that way for years. Give it a try.

I’ll trade you Garrard for a draft pick.

I’ll trade you Jimmy Clausen for the change in your couch.

Justin, not that shitty. Need someone good enough to start maybe 4-5 games, assuming Schaub doesn’t get hurt. I think I’ll be drafting/picking up a rookie, too.

3rd round?

Sounds fair.

Done. Incidentally, it’s really hard to determine how much a pick is worth in this league. In the end I had to go to the draft results for last year.

Here is my provisional keeper list, which I present for your comments and concerns. I reserve the right to make changes to my official list. “x” marks players I’m cutting. Varlos, if you don’t hear otherwise from me, this’ll be my list.

Matt Schaub (Hou - QB)
Carson Palmer (Cin - QB) x

Michael Turner (Atl - RB)
Cedric Benson (Cin - RB)
Carnell Williams (TB - RB) x
Kevin Smith (Det - RB) x
Reggie Bush (NO - RB)
Jason Snelling (Atl - RB)
Jerious Norwood (Atl - RB) x
Bernard Scott (Cin - RB)
Ryan Torain (Was - RB)
Brian Westbrook (SF - RB) x

DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR)
Vincent Jackson (SD - WR)
Steve Smith (NYG - WR)
Anquan Boldin (Bal - WR)
Jordan Shipley (Cin - WR)
Robert Meachem (NO - WR)
Anthony Armstrong (Was - WR)

Owen Daniels (Hou - TE)
Marcedes Lewis (Jac - TE)

David Buehler (Dal - K) x
Mason Crosby (GB - K)

Philadelphia (Phi - DEF)
Tampa Bay (TB - DEF)

I’m kind of torn about Palmer. I doubt the Bengals will ever cut him, and I doubt he’ll have much value even if he does come back, but it seems like he should be worth something.

I’m now taking trade offers for the Reggie Bush + Ryan Torain package (in exchange for a middling #2 RB), incidentally.

You know what’s weird is that even though no one on my team is good, they’re all young with potential, so I don’t want to cut anyone. I’d be straining to make 3 cuts, and I think I only made 3 last year.

Don’t feel too bad. Almost everyone has a really horrible team, including me.

Well, the upside is that my guys are young enough and with some ceiling that my team might not suck in 2 years. It’s never going to be a world beater, but I can contend for the bottom of the playoff seeds.

Rodgers to Finley for life.