SDMB Ongoing Depression Support Thread

I have said nearly all of this before. I’m 51; my mother took me to my first psychiatrist when I was 9. By my guess I have seen over 40 different mental health care professionals since then. Since 1995 I have tried at least 21 different medications. I have thought about suicide since I was about 12. Every time I pick up a knife I think about cutting my wrist, I was obsess with the idea of walking into a moving propeller for awhile (???). Given my neighborhood I hope to become an “innocent bystander” someday, and so on…

Last April, I spent a couple of days in a psych ward, last November I was all set to kill myself, instead I broke my computer and upset my ex-boyfriend tremendously.

I haven’t left my room in days. I also haven’t showered, vacuum, done the laundry, or gone to the store (I have nothing to eat at the moment). All of this could be done in less that 4 hours, but instead I lie in bed or look at endless pictures on Imgur.

I have been diagnosed with dysthymia, Major Depressive Disorder, and avoidance personally disorder. It’s all proven to be treatment resistant. I can’t help feel that I have failed or am a failure. Sometimes I think god is punishing me even though I’m an atheist.

I’m so tired; I’m looking forward to death as the only escape. I’m looking forward to nothingness, which is a strange thing to say.

I’m back in therapy and meds (Wellbutrian & Lexapro), but I have no hope that this time will be any different than all the other times.

I can relate to a lot of what you said and my personal experience with SSRI’s was that they made me even more depressed. SNRI’s and wellbutrin as well as the tricyclics had virtually no therapeutic effect.

Have you ever been on an MAO-i, amphetamine, mood stabilizer or atypical anti-psychotic?

Also, you may want to do a search on TMS (transcranial magnetic stimulation). I think it’s approved for depression and it’s like a very gentle form of ECT (no hospitalization required - fully outpatient).

I’ll just go ahead and have that hope for you, then.
panaccione, I have moments when I can rev myself up into “I can do anything” mode, and I’m all optimistic and confident. But then I fail at something, or someone points out a flaw, and I deflate almost instantly. I just can’t make the optimism, the “fuck it, haters gonna hate” attitude stick with me for very long. It’s made me wonder if maybe there’s something bipolar-ish going on but instead of mania, I get “normal” sometimes. Or I’m just ridiculously sensitive and emotional. I like your attitude, though, and I think it’s generally a good idea.

As much as I joke about the Stuart Smalley affirmations method (I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and doggone it, people like me), it can definitely have a positive effect on some folks. This MadTV sketch (YouTube link) on the other hand, resonates a lot with me. It’s kind of the essence of CBT.

Oh dear this is all so familiar and my heart goes out to each of you.

I have been on paroxitine for years and it is an effective medicine. Right now I’m trying venlafaxine (Effexor) which seems to be effective but I still have the useless and end of life thoughts.

I do believe that sharing is a positive move. The more of us who acknowledge these dreadful dark thoughts and can discuss them, the more of us who can rise above the dark nihilist abyss. Neitzchse had a lot to say about this.

Just FYI, I’ve actually done TMS. I think it has helped many people. Unfortunately it has not helped me. I made a thread about it a while back.

After the armchair psychoanalsnark I got in the mini-rant thread, I was reluctant to expose myself again here, but here’s me sticking my neck out and hoping I’m among friends.

And damn it, I’m crying just writing that. I’m tired of having tears on a hair trigger, but having gone through extended periods of not being able to cry at all, at all, I suppose it’s better than the alternative.

I’ve suffered from depression and anxiety all my adult life, and probably since childhood. I also have fibromyalgia and narcolepsy, so they all feed into each other in vicious ways. When I arrived in the UK just over 3 years ago, I was taking Celebrex for the fibro and Wellbutrin for the mental issues, and both seemed to help. My new doctor took me off both, cold turkey, which I should have resisted. I know what going cold turkey off an antidepressant is like, having done it with Effexor some years ago. I had enough of both with me that I could have tapered off to a degree even though Wellbutrin isn’t available here as an antidepressant.

After trying several other options that just make everything worse and render me even less functional than I already am, I’d really like to go back on it. I’m waiting for the powers that be to decide whether I can have it off license, given that it’s only available here as Zyban for short-term use to quit smoking. My doctor has agreed to keep an eye on my liver function and such, but the psychiatrist who was meant to ask the medical director for permission wasn’t keen to allow it even then. It’s been months since we got this ball rolling and it might be months before it’s resolved either way. I had some mental health counseling through the NHS, but that’s come to an end now and I can’t afford to go privately.

In the meantime, I’ve been unsuccessfully looking for work for nearly three years, which is frustrating, discouraging, and humiliating. I know it’s the economy, but how am I supposed to get past the fact that everyone out there has more relevant experience in whatever it is that I’m applying for? I can’t even get a job as a retail clerk or a cleaner because my experience in those roles was too long ago. And even if I did land one of those, it wouldn’t be enough to support us, so we’d have to hope that we could still get housing and council tax benefit. Jobs in my field (environmental sustainability, community gardening, municipal gardening, arboriculture, etc) are few and far between, and there are others more qualified there too.

The longer I search and apply and get rejected, the less capable I feel of actually doing a job if I’m lucky enough to get one. I’m even volunteering at a local historical site to get a bit of recent office admin experience and a local reference, but that wasn’t enough for the last job that actually contacted her. The only time I get an interview for a job that’s not directly related to the bulk of my experience and education is when I self-declare as disabled, and it’s pretty obvious when that happens. Especially when the interviewers, who aren’t supposed to have that information, ask me about the nature of my disability. They’re supposed to be interviewing me on the basis of my skills and relevance to the position, but I can’t help but assume that my disability figures into their decision to go with someone else, as does my age and the increasing gap since my last employment and the fact that I’m a damned furriner here to steal the jobs of good, honest hardworking Scots. I do hope that’s not much of an influence, but I can’t imagine it’s not at all.

So it’s all a bit of a struggle, coupled with the fact that it’s hard for me to make new friends in a strange place, so I feel isolated on top of it all. If I had a job, I’d be exposed to more people, and I’d have money to go out and do social activities, which would help. But when the jobseeker’s allowance doesn’t quite stretch to cover the bills and household expenses, it’s hard to budget for fun things. And I’ve got a raging case of homesickness on top of it all. I miss my family and friends back home. The internet is great for keeping in touch, especially with video chat and such, but I want to hug my daughter and putter in my mother’s garden and have a nice jam session with my friends. One of the few things that stops me from doing myself a severe injury is that I don’t want to die without seeing my family again. But I think about it every day, and every day it gets more and more tempting to just lie down and give up entirely. Knowing there are people counting on me to stay alive helps, but I’m afraid someday it won’t be enough.

It does help to know I’m not alone in having these feelings, though, so thanks for starting this thread, and thanks to everyone who’s sharing their stories and their struggles. I’m sorry I don’t have the energy or mental fortitude to respond individually to your pain just now, but please know that I feel sympathy for you all and I’m holding you in the Light.

I have Bipolar II and ADD. I spend most of my time depressed and unmotivated. I am currently on disability.

I had a sort of breakdown last week where I decided I was going to stay home, preferably in bed, for the forseeable future. This plan was derailed by the wi-fi being iffy in my room, among other things. I am still recovering.

Today I am having a good day. I got up on time (8am), did my internet, and sat in the sun doing my cross-stitch. Have a few other things I’d like to get done today, particularly my daily PT exercises. I’m feeling so well I’m almost afraid to “jinx” it by discussing it. :wink:

Hang in there, peoples.

Today’s another day. Git yer ass outside for ten minutes. Ten minutes totally counts.

Question for anyone who’d like to answer:
Does mental illness run in your family? My parents both died when I was young, and I am not close enough with the rest of my family to ask for specifics, but the information I’ve gleaned over the years leads me to believe that my father was schizophrenic(this is fairly certain, based on conversations I wasn’t supposed to hear) and that my mother suffered from depression, herself.

Doctor’s appt., today…

My mom’s got diagnosed Depression and in medical treatment for that. She’s done therapy on and off, mostly off, through the years.

My dad’s a functional alcoholic (and by “functional”, I mean I didn’t realize he was an alcoholic until I was in my 30s because it never affected his job or his home life, but I now realize that case of beer that was always in the fridge was replaced once or twice a day.); I don’t know if he’s got any other diagnoses, but I would not at all be surprised if he had Depression as well.

While I don’t have any confirmed diagnoses other than that, we have a strong family history through several generations of women “hysterics” and “nervous breakdowns” who have children and leave them with Grandma and then disappear for weeks or months. Depression? Bipolar? Borderline? Your guess is as good as mine. Diagnosis and recordkeeping wasn’t great in those days.

Yes. Grandfather and both of my sisters to varying degrees, and those are the ones I know about; depression and variations on ADHD. My one sister refers to it as “better living through chemistry”; she went through some very bad times before they finally found a combination of medications that worked for her (facilitated by a pregnancy-induced change in body chemistry).

Strangely the depression seems to have passed my mother by, which is annoying in that it took us years to get her to understand that we couldn’t just “cheer up”.

If not active depression, at least self-confidence and esteem issues, and inappropriate responses to stress – on both sides. Narcolepsy definitely runs in the family on my mom’s side and perhaps my dad has it as well based on some things he’s said, and it can have a very bad effect on mood due to sleep disruption and lack of energy. Alcoholism on both sides as well, resisted in my maternal grandfather and very much NOT resisted in my father.

I suffered my first bout of depression at the age of 11, but at that time, no one believed children could suffer from it. Since then, I’ve been through eight different bouts of major depression. The bouts get worse and longer each time, and the time between gets shorter. I’m coming to understand that there is no “last” bout of depression. There will always be a next bout.

Right now, I seem to be coming out of my last bout of depression. I’m beginning to get to the point where I can accomplish household chores in a reasonable amount of time, where some days, I get home and I don’t immediately collapse, and an evening alone doesn’t make me feel like the worst failure humankind ever manufactured. I would really like to be able to concentrate long enough to take on a constructive project instead of reading all evening on a good day, and watching tv all evening on a bad one.

Some days, I want to explain to the rest of the world that the fact that I am up, clean, dressed, and speaking in whole sentences isn’t just the best I can do, it’s a fucking Olympic gold medal in I Did Not Kill Myself Today, so cut me some og-damned slack. Other days, I want to smack people for underestimating me. And I honestly don’t know where the depression ends and the personality flaws start.

Let’s see, current medication is Wellbutrin in the morning and trazadone in the evenings, plus a daily amphetamine for the ADHD. I’ve done talk therapy, and it’s always helped, but I can’t seem to get organized enough to find a therapist and set up an initial consult.

Family history? I’m fairly sure my father has MDD. He would never admit to it, because he considers it a character flaw. In fact, I was the one who pushed my mom to mention it to his internist, because he was developing dementia, and the symptoms of depression in the elderly often mimic depression. Well, the antidepressant helped, but the dementia is still there. After all, nowhere is it written that you can’t have BOTH depression and dementia at the same time.

Here’s what I’m wondering: what portion of people with depression also have auto-immune illnesses? Dunkelheit mentioned fibromyalgia. I have episodes of something - hair falls out, nails stop growing, mouth and eyes go dry, rashes start, asthma kicks in - but the only thing that shows up in blood work is a slightly elevated anti-nuclear antibody test. About the only thing it might be is an extremely mild form of lupus, but you know what? It’s still a fucking pain. I have an untestable hypothesis that at least a subset of MDD is actually an auto-immune disorder.

I was also going to add - I think a lot of auto-immune sufferers deal with the same dismissal that depression sufferers do. “You’re just oversensitive” and “you’re making things up” and “you need to think more positively”. I know fibromyalgia is still not taken seriously by many people, even on this board, and there was one depression thread on IMHO where a user declared that if people would just make a point of thinking happy thoughts, they wouldn’t be depressed anymore.

It’s infuriating.

Antigen, I hear ya. I get that depression cannot be solved by “happy thoughts” for everyone. Regardless, I think it helps.

A lot of my depression came from being bullied. People would pick on me and I would fight back. For example, some dude might call me a “faggot” and I would respond in kind with something like, “No dude you’re the faggot.” Which becomes a game of who is more ruthless. I’m not proud of it but it is what it is.

These days if someone insults me, I simply respond with, “No, actually I’m the man.” Works like a charm.

I am having a very rough go right now.

My depression and anxiety really started to flare up three years ago when my kids moved in (we adopted them). It was so freaking stressful. However, I soon discovered that admitting there were any problems at home would just delay the adoption more (which wasn’t good for anyone). So, I pretended to be okay. For 18 months. 18 months of quietly freaking out inside my head, of constantly resisting the urge to run and of not being able to talk to anyone about it.

It was probably the worst thing I could have done.

As soon as the papers were signed, I went to my doctor. She set me up with an SSRI (Cipralex) and sent me to a counselor. The SSRI seemed to help for a while and the counselor was certainly helping but it wasn’t covered by our health insurance beyond 5 sessions.

Needless to say, that wasn’t enough. So, I found a different method to get counseling that was covered for 7 sessions but the counselor was…um…well…not very bright.

Back to my primary physician I went. There are really no options covered for counseling so I am working on getting to a psychiatrist (which is covered) so we can, at least, get me diagnosed and get the meds sorted out (since now I can’t sleep).

I am tired of oscillating between being so stressed that everything makes me break down and feeling nothing at all. I am sick of crying. I am sick of no one understanding what I am going through. I am disappointed in myself. I am angry with the world.

I just want to run away. Drop my entire life and leave. I am so scared of being me and so scared not to be.

I’ve got depression and anxiety and have been on several medicines, none of which worked. Even the Clonazepam isn’t doing much for me anymore and my new doctor (yes, I finally got one) suggested trying Prozac next. It just seems like every pill makes me feel worse, not better. Zoloft was the worst.

I don’t want to get out of bed, ever. I don’t want to go to work, I don’t want to go out for any reason. When I get home from work I nap on the couch. I am tired all the time, and my whole body is sore like I have just run 5 miles. My feet hurt, sometimes burn, all over, sometimes up to my shins, my toes are numb. Just standing tires me out. I can still do my job but I slack off an inordinate amount of time. All I want to do is sleep. I get no joy out of anything, even things I used to love doing.

I could go on and on, but… yeah.

Almost everyone in my family is mentally ill. Most of the women in particular suffer from severe depression and other issues. We are a colorful spectrum of DSM-IV diagnoses, though I’m really the only one getting proper treatment.

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Some days, I want to explain to the rest of the world that the fact that I am up, clean, dressed, and speaking in whole sentences isn’t just the best I can do, it’s a fucking Olympic gold medal in I Did Not Kill Myself Today, so cut me some og-damned slack. Other days, I want to smack people for underestimating me. And I honestly don’t know where the depression ends and the personality flaws start.
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Preach it, sister. I’ve been having endometriosis pain and sickness today, took a sick day at work, spent the day in bed, got very depressed (because life is really not that great right now as it is) and got into it with my fitness coach when he told me I was making excuses for not exercising today. Holy shit did I ream his ass out. But in the end he won, because I did my workout and damned if I’m not in a better mood right now. I seriously almost puked though.

I just feel like I’m so touchy. Today I felt so bad I just wanted to do something relaxing but nothing appealed to me at all. After my husband listed like 20 options I thought, oh, playing on my iPad might bring me some pleasure. But then I realized my charger was at work and I couldn’t use it. And it was the end of the fucking world. Like proof positive that the universe hates me.

I wish I wasn’t like that.

Yeah. :frowning:

huggles for all

It infuriates me to hear stuff like this. Everyone should have access to counseling. Everything points to the combination of medication and therapy as the best way to deal with depression, so why is it so hard to get therapy and so easy to get pills? It’s not right.

I can relate to wanting to drop everything. I’m not happy with how my life is right now, but I don’t know what I do want, or how to get there. And I have my doubts that achieving this or that thing will bring me the happiness I seek, because it’s never worked before.

I hope you can get in with a psychiatrist quickly so you can get some help.

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I just feel like I’m so touchy. Today I felt so bad I just wanted to do something relaxing but nothing appealed to me at all. After my husband listed like 20 options I thought, oh, playing on my iPad might bring me some pleasure. But then I realized my charger was at work and I couldn’t use it. And it was the end of the fucking world. Like proof positive that the universe hates me.

I wish I wasn’t like that.
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This is me every goddamned day. Isn’t it exhausting? Not sure where we want to eat tonight, don’t like any of the ideas but finally settle on one my husband suggests, then spend the car ride figuring maybe it’s not so bad after all, because I really do love their lasagna there and it’s been a while… suddenly I’m happy! Hooray, I’m getting lasagna and I’m out with my man and it’s going to be great and maybe we can watch some Simpsons reruns later… then I get to the restaurant and they changed their menu and the lasagna has fucking sausage in it now and my whole fucking day was a waste of breathing.

Does anyone else have a hard time shutting up their inner monologue? I think it’s a huge part of why I’m depressed. I can’t shut me up.

Yes! My mind constantly replays conversations I’ve had. I’m also always talking to myself in my head. Or arguing with myself. It started affecting my sleep, since I couldn’t “turn it off” and wind down. So I take hydroxyzine at night. It’s actually an antihistamine, but it has anti-anxiety and sedative properties.

I’m currently playing phone tag with the outpatient counseling dept. at the hospital. I met with the head clinician, who paired me up with someone she thought would be a good fit. Turns out that person doesn’t accept my particular insurance, so since Friday I’ve been trying to get an appt. with someone else. I keep getting an answering machine and they keep calling back when I’m away from the phone for 30 seconds. Frustration!