Yay now FinnAgain will have a whole new thread to call anyone who disagrees with him a liar! Woohoo!
Hey, moron?
Yet again, I disagree with people all the time without calling them liars.
You claiming that I do otherwise, is, guess what, a lie.
Stupid piece of shit.
Hey, bitch at me if you want, but **Clothahump’s ** baseless pittings where he disappears for a day or 7 are usually worth a visit. No sense slamming FinnAgain for my post.
Jim
Eh… he’s upset that when he makes stuff up and tries to put words in my mouth, I call him on it. Evidently he thinks that ‘arguing like an adult’ means that when someone lies, you pretend that they’re telling the truth, especially if they’re pretending you said things that you never did. He’s just a whiner.
I know, and that’s why I clarified my statement 20 minutes later. He’s always bitching, lying, spewing and flaming about Israel and Zionism and conspiracies and whatnot. He’s never been honest though, so who knows it’s it’s Anti-Israel speech, Anti-Zionist speech, or Anti-Semitism speech, and many times, the positions he holds tend to be right on the line of anti-Jew/Semitism.
Sam
I know, and that’s why I clarified my statement 20 minutes later. He’s always bitching, lying, spewing and flaming about Israel and Zionism and conspiracies and whatnot. He’s never been honest though, so who knows it’s it’s Anti-Israel speech, Anti-Zionist speech, or Anti-Semitism speech, and many times, the positions he holds tend to be right on the line of anti-Jew/Semitism.
Sam
Oh God, is that what you think this is about? “Winning” or “losing” a debate on an internet message board? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! My God, you’re even more pathetic than you appear! To answer your question, I would say I have “won” most if not all of the “debates” that I have been in with you because you don’t give a flying fuck about truth, for you it’s all about repeating the same tired and trite talking points until people get tired of it and wander off to yell at the wind, at least that’s constructive compared to the drivel you post. Are you really so pathetic that you search for validation by “winning” and argument on a message board? I suppose that must be true, because now that you mention it, it makes sense. “Winning” here would be the only positive thing in your life, wouldn’t it? Jesus, you’ve just revealed yourself to be even more inadequate than you seem from your posts. I wouldn’t have believed it possible.
Strange as it may sound, I’m now going to give your statement an honest answer that it does not deserve. I engage in debate on these boards to expand my horizons and broaden my thinking. There have been any number of times where I have admitted I was wrong when faced with a compelling counter argument. Unfortunately for you, you have never been the person making that argument. All you care about is trumpeting your agenda in the face of actual facts. Your patterns of “debate” are well established. You have a tendency to restate the arguments that your opponents are making in terms that are not at all accurate, and nothing even close to what they were actually saying, but that do serve your partisan need for straw men well. You then proceed to regurgitate volumous amounts of bile from your personal inferiority matrix in an attempt to obscure the fact that you’re nothing but a sad, helpless, pathetic pea brain, overwhelmed by life seeking security in what other people tell you to think. You take what another poster has said, change it, present it as their argument, and the proceed to attack it with all your insignificant might. It’s like watching a schizophrenic yell at a mirror. Honesty and you are two things that wouldn’t even recognize each other. in short, you are a waste of oxygen, and I would suggest that you, I and the entire United States would be far happier if you went to the top of a tall, tall building and…shit, I can’t say that anymore…I would suggest that you, I and the entire United States would be far happier if you went to the top of a tall, tall building and gazed down upon all the people below and marveled at how they are actually able to think about issues and facts and then made an effort to emulate that rather than just regurgitating the same tired bullshit that is your stock in trade.
“winning” and “losing”. snerk snerksnerksnerk**snerkJesus, God that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
No, I’m sorry, but…BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
It seems to me that the “same ired, trite arguements” that he keeps bringing up are that the republicans are just as bad as he thinks they are. Thus, you would fail to be convinced no matter what he says, no matter how the republican’s actions keep proving him right.
The choice of terms was yours, dumbfuck, in your comment on Shodan’s claim:
I’m glad you think you’re so hilarious. At least somebody does.
Is that really what *you * think this is all about? :wally Og Almighty.
Then it shouldn’t be all that hard to provide an example, should it? :wally
Et cetera ad nauseam, no content in sight either.
Yawn. That post too is linked in the Wikipedia article on “Irony”.
Then it shouldn’t be all that hard to provide an example of that, either? :wally
Here’s a hint that might help you in the future: If you don’t have anything to back up an argument, it’s best not to even try to assert it. That never works, as most people eventually come to understand in their first day or two here. There are others who learn as slowly as you, though, but not many.
Ha, and I put words in your mouth. Hah! Can you show me where I said you call everyone who disagrees with you a liar? I don’t see anywhere that I did that, so you’re either lying or ignorant. 
Hey Elv1s.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Stop it, please, stop it. Jesus, you’re killing me over here! I give, I give, just let me catch my breath.
Yes, you fucking chickenshit quarterwit liar:
That implies… oh… I don’t know, that I “call anyone who disagrees with [me] a liar.”
Dumfuck.
Or you’re a painfully stupid waste of space cowardly liar.
Difficult choice.
Yeesh, that should be “dumbfuck”.
And since you’ve decided to paint a bullseye on your forehead I’ll oblige with another one of your lies from the other thread.
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When challenged to cite where I ever said anything like that, you could not. Because you are a liar.
Oh, and, the next time you’re getting you ass handed to you on factual ground and instead of addressing the facts, you call me a racist, at least attempt to back it up with a cite of my own words rather than equivocating and evading. It’s slimey enough to lie and accuse me of racism, but to then follow that with cowardly evasion should be beneath even a bottom feeder like yourself.
If you want I can add others, easily. Like when you claimed that Hamas’ actions were only due to them “having their back up against a wall” and then deliberately ignored, evaded, and then lied some more when it was shown that Hamas still used the same tactics even during negotiations for peace.
You have such a weak grasp of reality that you think whatever verbal diarrhea that comes pouring out of your mouth must be equal to what’s real and true. And you have the nerve to whine like a child about “pseudo-intellectuals”.
Fucking waste.
Remember back in school there was this weird kid who sat alone at a corner desk, alternately staring blankly out the window, or making hand gestures while muttering to himself, and occasionally giggling out loud at whatever the hell it was he said? The rest of us tried to ignore him while we tried to learn, so did the teacher, but he was still disruptive and basically useless.
Now we know what finally happened to that weird kid. He posts on the SDMB now.
Damnit, now I have an image of mswas as an angsty goth writing poetry with sevasty sitting alone at a lunch table while eating glue and giving nasty looks to everybody who passes by.
You claimed Hamas which didn’t exist before 1948 had the same policies since 1948. So I took that to mean you were conflating different groups and putting their agendas at Hamas’ door. You didn’t bother to answer the question I addressed to Uzi about whether or not there were any Palestinian groups that you could see as being reasonable leadership opportunities for Palestine.
You had a vitriolic agenda in that thread, you didn’t want to hear anything other than what fit your party line, and you took half of hwat I said out of context then accused ME of dishonest tactics when it was you actually engaging in them.
You overuse the “liar” ploy, and as such I was making fun of you for it.
You took my joke literally about calling anyone who disagrees with you a liar. I never stated that you did do that, I said that you COULD do that in a JOKE. I think you’ve got some serious issues with the whole concept of truth if you think that I’ve ever lied to you about anything. Maybe you should take the stick out of your ass cuz it’s breaking your concentration. See this is an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD. We are discussing issues informally in order to see what other people’s takes on them are. I forget the exact wording of how I say things and I don’t always go back and reread my posts so that I can know exactly how it was worded. If I come back and talk to you CONVERSATIONALLY, because this is an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD and not a COURT OF LAW, that doesn’t mean I am lying.
I am not going to go back and parse your inanely long posts in order to show you every little place where I think you recontextualized what I said ever so slightly as to make conversing with you prohibitively difficult. So you are welcome to live in your little fantasy land where liars abound, but I’d like you to set your ego down for just a moment and contemplate this for a moment:
Your opinion is not important enough to me that I would be motivated to lie to you.
I think he’s trying to insult me Finn. He’s not very good at it.
No. And not true (and what do we call an untrue statement?)
I said that the backers were supporting the same ideology and tactics and that the rhetoric was not new nor limited to when anybody had their ‘back up against the wall.’ Moreoever, you totally ignored that Hamas has had consistent policies of terrorism even during peace negotiations, a time that can hardly be described as ‘having their back up against a wall’.
As I have already shown, with cites, the ideological and financial support Hamas receives is from the same regimes who have perpetrated a campaign of genocide since 1948. As I have pointed out numerous times, with citations, the groups’ are not totally seperate entities. Hamas, in specific, is an offshoot of The Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928 and which gained international Arab support.
You don’t say… I didn’t ‘bother’ to answer a question not addressed to me?
And as I’ve pointed out, you are, in fact, a winged purple monkey, but I will not provide a cite.
And although challenged many times, you have also refused to provide a cite as to your claims of my distorting what you said.
So, cite for me engaging in dishonest tactics, winged purple monkey?
Ahhhh, retreat, retreat! You weren’t saying what you said in black and white text, you were, um, saying something else.
I notice, by the way, that you still have not admitting lying through your teeth when you accused me of racism and talking about “all Palestinians.” The best you have done is some halfassed backpedaling about how you saw me conflating various groups with Hamas. As should be obvious, “various groups” are not “all Palestinians.”
Ahhh, a joke. Yeepers. Hillarious. And, of course, it is physically impossible to accuse someone of something with a joke. Impossible.
“Oh, mswas is in this thread, yet another one for him to babble and make no sense.” Not that I’m suggesting you babble or make no sense, mind you, it’s just a joke.
Several things are possible. Either you’re a coward, a liar, or you have about a fifth grade grap of the English language. By stating that I would “have a whole new thread” to do something, you implied that I had done so in the past, even if it’s in a ‘joke’. Take some damn responsibility for your words.
Mmmm hmmmmm.
The thread was in GD. If you want informal banter, go to MPSIMS. Further, if you want to call me a racist, you better damn well at least be able to cite something to back up your claim other than wilful ignorance on your part.
And by the way, even on an (all caps) internet message board, truth matters. I’m sorry if it isn’t as important to you as it should be, but it’s not my duty to educate you in the importance of honor and honesty.
Your shift key seems to be getting stuck. And no, lying would be doing things like claiming that I have “called all Palestinians terrorists.” Even though it’s an internet message board untrue things that you say are, guess what, still untrue.
I know, I know, the magic alchemy of the 'net means you can make stuff up and have it treated as truth, especially while slandering someone. It’s just my wacky and crazy take on things that makes me object to someone lying and putting words in my mouth in order to call me a racist.
So, like I said, you’re a whiner and a coward and you refuse to cite anything which backs up your claims, o’ winged purple monkey.
And I’m sure that this is a joke too, right?
Coward.
Yes yes, just like you said that I wasn’t worth responding to… in the five or six posts you spent telling me how not worth responding to I was.
On the other hand, what you just said is fucking stupid. Why would you have to care about my opinion to make up a quote and claim I said it in order to paint me as a racist? Or to cling to untrue positions even once they’ve been factually debunked? I’m sure your own desire to treat this board as your own personal toilet for ‘CONVERSATION’ would see to the quality of your posts. Or the lack thereof.
When you go to work do you get to play with blocks and have nap time?
If you didn’t notice I DIDN’T respond to the things I felt not worth responding to. I tried to explain to you why I didn’t feel the conversation was going anywhere because I didn’t want to just dismiss you out of hand because I thought maybe you’d come to your senses and be a little more civilized about it.
But, nevertheless you are not that important to me. You are an irritating little fuck who has taught me how obnoxious I have been and how I’ve hurt good communication in the past by seeing how annoying it is when you do it.
So thanks for that. Maybe one day we’ll be able to have a civil discussion about this issue, and then perhaps I’ll properly explain my point of view, but as long as you look at it as “exposing lies” rather than just helping to educate one another to an alternative viewpoint, I don’t see a whole lot of point in giving you a lot of credence.
The shame in it is there does seem to be some substance in what you have to say, you just come off as so unreasonable that talking to you feels like smashing one’s head against a wall.
If you’ll notice in all of my threads I take a very neutral stance in my moral judgements of sides in any conflict. I’m fairly consistent about that. It might bother you as it certainly bothers a lot of people, but it’s something that I have yet to see any compelling reason to change, because everyone thinks their guys are the good guys and the other ones are the bad guys. I think good guys and bad guys don’t exist, never have and never will.
Feel about me how you will, if it is that easy for you to label me as one of the ‘bad guys’, then you’ve only confirmed my belief about the sort of person who needs to divide people up like that.
Erek