Even a slow clock is right twice a year. But assholeness would depend upon exactly which comments resonated with you.
I’m curious about something. Among the people who think Shagnasty is making all of this up, would anything about how you think about the world change if you came to know it was all real?
I don’t think he is fabricating all his shit. I do believe he is sociopathic and will consistently misinterpret situations to his advantage.
I don’t think he’s fabricating his personality and family life. Why would he? As far as his more, er, interesting tales, I would imagine those are peppered with embellishments, half truths, choosing to remember something a certain way vs how it actually happened, or perhaps all of the above.
Actually, that’s how I first noticed Shagnasty. He made some cynical remarks about marriage that, IMHO, were right on target.
That’s pretty much where I am. I don’t think he’s lying about everything; people are never 100 percent truthful or untruthful. The high school he claims to have attended really did burn down. Do I believe that there were mass circle-jerks at that school? Let’s just say I’m skeptical.
I agree that he’s a narcissist who constantly embroiders or reframes situations in a self-aggrandizing way. For example, he says he did graduate work but left without finishing a dissertation. There’s nothing wrong with that. But somehow that wasn’t glorious enough for Shags, so he said he said “I have an ABD” and a “partial Ph.D.” He was deservedly mocked for that.
His “hosebeast” thread convinced me that he is a sociopath. The sheer lack of empathy on display in that thread is disturbing. It was way beyond checking off two or three items in the DSM-V symptom list, and was firmly in HA HA HA I’M A SOCIOPATH DEAL WITH IT YOU LOSERS territory. I think he knew exactly what reaction he was going to get; he proudly flew the APD flag and trolled the Dope to hell and back in the process. His latest “online dating addict” thread was more of the same trollery.
This sums up my beliefs quite nicely. I find it difficult to believe that there are that many hot and successful career women out there who are searching the web sites looking for a middle aged man who states that their purpose in his life is for fucking and looking good. I could be wrong. But I don’t think I am.
(Insert Shagnasty standard “But I Love Women and Have Many Women Friends” Denial #3 – Now with extra passive aggressive LOLs!)
I wonder how many of these friends would call him a friend. I mean there are men that I’m polite to that I don’t consider friends.
I’ve seen a few men say “He’s saying what other men think to a certain extent”. I’ve skipped over a lot of the posts and the previous train wreck so tell me this: Is there one single woman on this board who doesn’t think he’s absolutely brimming to the ears full of horseshit? I’d give anything to see a video of one of these dates to see what’s going on from a normal human perspective.
My beliefs about the friction levels and natural lubrication properties of human genitalia would alter dramatically, to accommodate the idea that jackhammering continuously for six hours straight wouldn’t have the same effect as using a sandpaper condom.
Look, I don’t live in a fantasy world. I haven’t been married myself, but I have had and have currently long term relationships, and I live in the world. People lose their looks, they get older, fatter, and have less energy for working on themselves, especially families with kids. People get depressed and can’t muster up the energy to care what they look like or how they dress. People fall out of love. Some couples stay together despite this because they don’t want to turn their lives upside down, lose the stability, be it financial or emotional, they stay together for the kids, whatever. People lose their libidos for various reasons, medical, whatever. That’s reality. Some people are bad kissers or bad in bed. Even in the best of times, relationships take work. If you care enough about someone, you do the work. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t.
I could go on, but the big difference between what I just said vs what Shags spews is that I include everyone, both men and women, because these things do in fact happen to everyone. Shags just focuses on the women. If a women isn’t a perfect 10, her husband must be miserable and not attracted to her, end of story. In Shags-land, women are there for looking pretty, being a pleasant dinner companion, and fucking. That’s it. That’s sick.
It’s not weird to find women in their 20s attractive when you’re twice that age. Youth is attractive. But beauty can be found in all age groups. And most people, as they grow older, grow up and realize very few people are physically perfect, and that there’s more to a relationship than looks. Looks are certainly a factor, as is good hygiene and other basics, but they’re not everything. Truly being in love with someone changes your entire perception of them. Someone that Shag qualifies as a hosebeast could be someone another man sees as the most beautiful and sexy woman in the world, who gets him rock hard when they make love, and who gets him off every time. Whether he has daughters and female friends and is on good terms with his ex or not, Shags, in his heart, does not like, respect, value, or love women. He is a misogynist, plain and simple.
Ouch!
Disturbed people, yes.
No, although I kind of wish I were that naive.
Having spent way too much time on the Internet over the years, I already knew that there were misogynistic creeps out there who thought sexual assault was funny. Since Shagnasty’s dumber cousin Donnie was elected president, I’ve also known that not only do people as vile as Shagnasty exist in real life but that they can be far more successful than Shagnasty claims to be.
You are making a lot of assumptions. I never thought that way about people. I always used to get shit from people for my particular taste in women when I was much younger and single. I did not generally go for the standard for what people thought was attractive. I would get looked down upon for it. People would talk about me behind my back. People would tell me to my face. I had a group of friends who were jocks, I had a group of friends who were more artistic/intellectual. The artistic group of friends was only slightly more accepting.
So, at least in my life and my surroundings, I was always a bit of an outcast in a world of people who thought more like Shagnasty.
I think it’s great that there is a group of people here who are not like that, and are not judgmental in those ways; but you would have a hard time convincing me that people who think like Shagnasty are particularly uncommon. It’s not impossible, but many years of experience and interactions with people from all walks of life have lead me to believe as I do.
Shag’s problem is that he probably ranks very high on paper, assuming half of what he says about himself is somewhat accurate. I’m sure he attracts a fair amount of attention, even if it’s not 27 messages from perfect 10s everyday and twice as many on Mondays.
Unfortunately for him, his nature and whatever mental or emotional problems he has ranks him very low for second or subsequent dates. If he writes his profile to make himself into an 8 or 9, his actual score, – taking into consideration his misogyny, narcissism or whatever his condition, and especially his distaste of mature relationships – would be closer to a 1 or 2 for relationship material. Better than crackheads, but just barely.
Women on the dating sites are looking to be more than simply eye candy and the owner of a vagina. They don’t need to settle, and we can see from his threads that they aren’t. Once they know him, he’s ghosted.
It would actually be easier for someone who never gets first dates to change their ways.
Counseling would no doubt be problematic, as he believes that strippers are better than trained therapists.
No doubt he could learn to hide his misogyny a little better and get some further dates, but long term relationships are not likely, as you pointed out. That is, even if he wanted one, which doesn’t seem to be the case.
I’m sort of doubtful that “impersonating a woman’s boyfriend to make out” would really work, I would think most women would notice. Unless she was extremely intoxicated, which would still make it illegal just for different reasons.
I imagine that most of these women that Shaggie dates on-line and rejects due to lack of hottitude - and the ones that reject him because he’s a shallow asshat- eventually go on to fall in love and get married and have a good life. And Shagnasty becomes “some creep that I went out with a few times before I met my husband”. And he’s relegated to that role. It’s incredibly sad, really.
Of course it never happened. Unless it was completely, 100% pitch black, the girl’s eyes would have gotten adjusted to the dark. Even tiny amounts of light under the door would be enough.
However, that’s not the point. He wanted to have everyone believe his story and it wasn’t until now that people are all over him for his claimed sexual assault that he’s finally shutting up about it.
A lot of people pass along urban legends as personal experience and Shag won’t be the last.
Even if we assume that Shagnasty has provided us with a reasonably accurate description of real events, all he could be sure of is that his victim never acknowledged to him that she knew what he had done. It may be that she suspected but second-guessed herself because she trusted her boyfriend. It may be that she realized the guy in bed with her wasn’t her boyfriend but was too shocked or frightened to protest. It occurs to me that she may have mentioned she was having her period because she knew she wasn’t with her boyfriend and was hoping to discourage her assailant from raping her.
After the fact, she may have been too humiliated by what had happened or too frightened of being branded a slut to say that she’d known that Shagnasty had switched places with her boyfriend.
If money’s spent and a female’s involved, there seems to be an expectation of nudity or sex; they only see women as a factor in a transaction that gratifies in exchange for their hard-earned cash (or in some cases, ‘charity’). So if they wound up w/ a female counselor - awkward…
That had occurred to me as well ( that she said she was her period to put the brakes on). This was a “lord of the flies” situation, as he had mentioned multiple times, so i think there was likely some intoxication involved. She may have been drunk, realized something horrible was happening, and said she was on her period to keep sex from happening. How “lucky” for Shags!
And even if this WAS a joke on Shagnasty, and the girl was in on it, HE didn’t know that, and was perfectly willing to commit sexual assault on someone.