Shakespeare Mafia -- Act IV (Game Over)

That should’ve been legendary.

Let’s coin my win as jegendary like we did basterd.

I call this game “Mahaloth’s jegendary scum game”

Thank you, Chronos, for a great game! The mechanism of not knowing what our powers were played out very interestingly.

Well-played, everyone! It was so much fun to be together again and to meet new players who bring fresh perspectives.

It’s fun now to look over at the follow along thread and see how many were sure I was Scum.

I wanted to kill you on Night 1, Prof P. You linked Mahaloth and I right away, but fortunately that was not pursued.

I have learned very little the past 15+ years playing mafia, but one thing I try to do is not over-react to getting votes or suspicion. This tactic works well both as Town and Scum. I wanted to defend myself a lot when I was new to the game. You do need to, but a calmer approach is best.

Letting things sit is a good rule of thumb. I thought for sure I was toast the first day or 2 and like so often, the early suspicions that don’t die……lose suspicion.

We had a terrible Day 1, but I still think a lot of that was luck. I thought we had zero chance. I’ve almost never voted a Day 1 vote with confidence and while I celebrate D1 successes, I don’t take much credit for them.

Yes, I winced a day or so ago when you said how frustrated it would make you if it was me. Alas, it was!

Congratulations Mahaloth, that was indeed a jegindary comeback.

@Pardel-Lux , here’s the link to Giraffe and if you need help figuring out where the signups are, PLMK.

Sorry, I misspelled the misspelled word. :joy:

You know, I keep seeing the following scene from a favorite movie The Prophecy when I hear this line… (if the video doesn’t start at the proper prompt, it begins right about 3:30).

I think it was inevitable that I’d screw that up somehow. Yup, what you said.

She definitely did. As for her reasons, you’d have to ask her to be sure, but I think she was going after low-activity posters.

Mafia win when they control the vote. A 1-1 tie does not necessarily control the vote.

Yup, it’s officially jegendary now.

As for how he did it… You know all those things that people say “Scum would never do that, because it would be obvious, and people would vote them for it”? Yeah, it turns out that people don’t actually vote for those things. Like, a vote for two Townies, based on “a hunch”? That wasn’t actually a hunch, and you let him avoid having to make up a reason.

Meanwhile, I’m not sure if there’s any way I can make the villain chat completely public, but I certainly can invite all of the players to it. Give me a moment and I’ll do that.

How interesting. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a power role quite like that.

Possibly fun, definitely lots of room for overthinking what the best move might be.

And a “major character” with a power that may or may not be all that useful, because Town powers tend not to co-ordinate early on, because too early reveals are generally considered risky and bad for Town.

If you know or suspect how to use it, the redirector power is basically a sort of protector: One of your targets is either yourself or someone you think the villains are likely to target, and the other is someone you suspect more. It doesn’t stop the villains from getting a kill entirely, like an actual doctor would, but on the other hand, it just might redirect the Scum kill onto another Scum. I eyeballed that those two would roughly cancel out, and that the power was about as valuable as a standard doctor.

Oh, and to cover another question: I basically didn’t think about the tiebreaker rule at all when coming up with roles. The minor characters were chosen almost completely at random: I made a big list of two or three minor characters from each play, ending up with around 70 on the list, then picked as many as I needed from that list at random (so the fact that Iago and Bianca were from the same play was just coincidence). The villains were picked because they were villains: Iago and Angelo because both of them were completely, 100% unambiguously villains, and Macbeth because he kind of was ambiguous: With the detective learning only role-name, Macbeth was meant to be a pseudo-Godfather, because if he had been caught out, he could plausibly have claimed to be a Major Character.

I’m not sure you are wrong– I mean, the challenge of not actually knowing who is Town or what the other power roles are going to do applies to all the power roles.

And if nothing else, it fit your chosen color very well.

Imagine how frustrated I was to learn the last was you. The wagon built so fast on you on D3, that I was Absolutely sure that you were Town. All along I had you in my pocket because it just felt like you were the last, but I had no proof, and then I drank so much wine that I was spinning in circles.

So my proof story and Prof were town was from D1 when they both were confused by a) how Pardel didn’t know what his role was, and that they didn’t understand the Power roles.

We literally had ZERO idea about what our roles were. My only instructions were that I could Target 1 player. No details about what would happen. So I made an educated guess. Angel and Pardel claimed a Town Power. Story and Prof were Town. I left the newbies alone because I didn’t have a way to catagorize them. I was hoping I was some kind of investigative role, but with the name Brutus I was also worried maybe I’d do something “bad” and I wanted to stay away from anyone who I suspected as town, so I took a gamble on Biotop who was quiet and semi lurking, and always confuses me.

D2 - I was sure Bicucle was a newbie scum, and offed him.

D3 - I was so drunk with WIFOM I couldn’t think straight. I wasn’t planning on shooting because I thought there was only 1 villan left, but you guys convinced me that there were 2, and with 2 villans left, I decided I had a good shot at hitting one. Dumb dumb. So I went for the “2nd one”. Assuming Mahaloth was the first. Stupid, I should have just hit Mahaloth. I also was questioning Story at that point.

I was hemming and hawing all day to release what I knew before I died, but I didn’t want to out I was the vig, although I also assumed it was fairly obvious with my Bicycle kill.

Make votes for sketchy reasons, draw suspicion.

No, that wasn’t your only instruction. Your full role PM was as such:

The quotes (for non-minor characters) were meaningful. I figured that a quote saying “I killed Caesar because he needed killin’” would be clear enough.

Exactly. I knew about Puck/Robin Goodfellow from the Sandman comics, and I searched on the web around to find more about him. First I thought he might make the two I chose fall in love with each other. Like in the play. If one gets killed, the other dies in grief. So I cannot put myself in the list, it would kill me if the other dies. Excellent idea: simple, plausible, and wrong. Then I thought it might put both to sleep for a day. Or at least during the night. So they could not do anything during this period, in particular not harm me. Also not good to put myself on the list. Another excellent idea (facepalm!).
After Night 1 I realized I was a redirector. But I still did not know whether I redirected from A → B or from A ↔ B. I had put first Mahaloth on the list I submitted to Chronos, Thing.Fish second. And as Thing.Fish had not been targeted in Night 1, there was no way to find out.
So I learned too late that I should not have outed me so soon as a major character, even if I did it oh so subtly (ehem…). That put a target (ha!) on my back, and I was done for. Had I survived the first night I might have guessed, depending on the outcome, and I would have protected AngeloftheNorth if Scum still did not suspect me to be a major character. Or myself if they suspected, as far as I would have been able to tell. But I did no longer have the chance to do so.
Interesting how close to the best possible outcome we came after Day 1 considering how little we I knew. That was as far as my beginner’s luck would carry me: close, but no cigar. Ach!