The writers did a brilliant job, IMO, showing Karen as more complex this episode. She looked so happy and hopeful when she saw Lip on the stoop, right before he told her to leave him alone. And then yeah, the claws came out again, of course. But also, when Sheila was apologizing to her and Karen wiped Sheila’s tear away…Anyone who remembers my posts from last season knows that I hate Karen and found her profoundly disturbing, but I thought we had glimpses of her genuinely human side last night.
Ugh. So many broken people. Ian was heartbreaking. Mickey was heartbreaking. Sheila and Debbie were heartbreaking. (“It’s not your fault. You know that, right?” The fact that Sheila could get out of her own sadness and despair to reach out to Debs that way). Mandy was heartbreaking when she was telling Lip she wanted him to go, even if he didn’t take her.
And Jimmy’s just a douche. I hope he goes to medical school far away and Fiona hooks up with her cute new boss (who, thankfully, was totally non-pervy with her).
There’s NO WAY, in the Gallagher family, that Ian would be left alone to cry in his bed. They’re so totally involved with each other that someone getting “alone time” would be unthinkable.
I want Lip to get out. It would ruin the series if he did, but I want him out. And not get pulled down by psycho-killer girl.
I’m still fast-forwarding through all the Frank scenes.
I"m pretty sure that Boss Dude will have a bigger role, as he’s a Named Actor from another (ended) series (Greek). Short Lady is also on another Disney series (Lab Rats), so she’ll be around for some stuff.
Early on in our viewing, I said to hubby, “I don’t know why they brought Karen back. She’s an unsympathetic sociopath, and earlier in the season when she wasn’t there, she wasn’t missed.”
Seriously did anyone not see that coming as soon as she got a text “from Lip”? :dubious: They just showed her with the phone and we saw how she handled Mrs Letourneau a few episodes ago. Mandy’s broken, and she knows it. She want’s Lip to get out because at least if she can do that she won’t be a total failure.
As for Karen, she’s still a despicable cunt. I do really wonder why she turned out that way. Does she actually have some kind of mental illness or is she just a sociopath? I wasn’t at all happy when she returned, but there’s some interesting ways they could go with her accident. She could come out of it with severe brain damage and now have the mental capcity of a toddler or a completely different personality. I just hope they don’t go with amnesia, that’s so cliche. Unless it’s anterograde amnesia; that could be fun to watch
Agreed, although I’m loving his humiliation conga. I can’t belive he never bothered to repaint the car or change the locks. :smack: I wonder how he’d con his way into (& pay for) medical school. I can see the writers suddenly revealing there’s some kind of family trust he can only tap into further is education or some crap like that.
And poor Ian. First real boyfriend rejecting you because he’s so, so deep in the closet? Been there, done that (albeit without the violence). There’s no way things end well for Micky. Ian needs to move on. Though I would love to see Ian & Lip going at it with Micky and Mandy side-by-side. :o
Sunday’s episode appeared to be the first time that Lip took seriously the idea of going away to college. I wonder if the show will do that. Because it would be interesting to see how he does at MIT or another nerd school, where he’s no longer the smartest kid at his “ghetto high school.” (And doesn’t Chicago have a magnet school like Bronx Science that he could have been attending?) Meanwhile Ian could do far better than Mickey in terms of a boyfriend.
Basically the program shows how the family support system keeps the kids, particularly the older ones, sane. But at the same time, Fiona, Lip and Ian would be better off elsewhere.
And regarding Fiona’s new temp office job. In a previous season, didn’t she turn down a training program for office work that would have paid twenty bucks an hour, because her computer skills weren’t there? I mean, the kids have at least one computer in the house, and Fiona is young enough that she should be comfortable with them. And if not, Ian, Lip and Carl should be able to show her how to use one quickly enough.
Finally, Steve/Jimmy’s path has been interesting this season. His current problems are really his own fault, given that he dropped out of med school, hasn’t had a “normal” job since then, and is now trying to go straight.
Chicago does have magnet schools, but IIRC parents actually have to apply for them. Lip may have been recommended for one by his teacher or guidence counselor, but neither parent followed up. Actually I think that would’ve been right around the time Monica left so they all would’ve had bigger shit to deal with. Jeremy Allen White’s film career seems to be taking off so they might be planning to either write him out of the show or reduce in to guest star status.
I’m having a difficult time with Lip. Someone up the thread mentioned the problem with him being in his second senior year (I thought I heard a reference to his 3rd semester), yet he’s still young enough to be scooped up by CPS.
Also, here’s a guy who doesn’t care to take the SAT or apply for a college, but he cares enough to be carrying a GPA of 4.6? Sounds like he puts in a lot of effort to do well, but also goes to great effort to pretend he doesn’t care so everyone will fall all over themselves praising him.
And I really don’t buy that a rep from MIT would spend 2 minutes indulging some kid who doesn’t think he has anything to learn from taking actual classes…
I think the idea is that he can ace all this classes without putting in much effort; the only reason he’s a 3rd semester senior is because of all the class he missed when he dropped out. And he does attend a shitty inner-city school, not a magnet or college prep.
Especially in a demented sociopath like Karen. I cold dig seeing her tattoo the clues all over her body in her hunt to track down the driver that hit her. Remember Sammy Jenkins? hehheh.
The cunt is awake. I loved the expressions on Lip’s face as he realized what Mandy did. Og only knows how she’ll react if he breaks up with her; though I gather she did it more to stop Karen from trapping him with a baby that to keep Lip to herself. I’m not liking the Frank subplot, but it was pretty Funny when the gay rights guy brought two boy-toys with him an ordered Frank to prove he was gay. They’re hot too. And it’s not like Frank hasn’t done it with guys before. It’d be even funnier if the conversion therapy guy had his suspicions too and wanted proof. As usually Jimmy’s an ass. I hope Jake McDorman has a nude scene coming up.
I thought the scene with Lip and Ian was just fantastic. Lip was so unhappy and preoccupied until the moment Ian told him what happened and then he just put it all aside to be there for his brother.
I am highly doubtful that Vee’s mom’s pregnancy is as simple as it seems on the face if it right now—inasmuch as having a mother-daughter threesome in order to conceive can be considered simple.
I also doubt that getting readmitted to Med school, especially when you’re broke, is as simple as calling up the school and telling them you’d like to come back. Or am I wrong about that?
I thought last night’s episode was completely amazing. While I am happy to read that Shameless was picked up for a 4th season in 2014, I’m sad that next week is the finale. 2014 sounds a looooong way away. Thank goodness Nurse Jackie is coming back!
So, in no particular order:
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[li]Does anyone think Karen is faking? At first I thought she was, then I decided she wasn’t. Now I’m all and I wonder if she is NOT faking now but will start to fake in the future.[/li][li]Jimmy. Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy…Steve. I’ve started to really like Beto and when he said to him, “Chin up…be a man” or whatever he said, I felt like he was attempting to restore some of Jimmy’s dignity. I also don’t think they’ll kill Jimmy—I feel like it would have happened last night if it was going to happen.[/li][li]I used to be pro-Mandy, but now there’s just no way. I wonder if the interlude in the kitchen will see her knocked up, though. I can see that happening.[/li][li]Frank was likely more motivated by the fact that he’ll get 3 hots and a cot in jail than by any sense of fatherly obligation to save Carl, but I also think he really means it when he says that Carl is the only one who hasn’t given up on him. There were a lot of times this episode where I felt like Carl was getting a glimmer of Frank just using him (“All you brought me was crusts?”), but in the end, Frank actually did the right thing. Hell foze over indeed.[/li][/ul]
I think it’s more the whole to do with having a heated cell for the winter than saving Carl too. I assume Frank wasn’t able to fake enthusiam very well in that hotel room. Mickey cleans up pretty well, and at least his bride was prettier than the other whores. I knew Ian do a drunken declaration of love as soon as I soon him go for the bar, but I was disapointed Mandy didn’t actually catch him & Mickey in the act.
Anyone see the S3 finale last night? Thoughts / comments?
I was a little miffed that they didn’t address the Steve/Jimmy situation. I don’t think he’s dead, I think the drug lord took him on his boat, across Lake Michigan, into Michigan and he’s going to set up an apartment there for him to go to medical school.
I didn’t get the Frank ending either…he just wanders off from the hospital in his gown in mid December?? I just didn’t like the way they left it…like nothing in particular happened.
Lip got into MIT on a full ride…will he be around next season?
How long will Ian’s scam on the army last? They’re bound to find out he lied about his age to join sooner or later, right?
I’m really having a hard time with the fact that there won’t be a new season for 8+ months. Luckily *Nurse Jackie *returns next week.
My thoughts/answers to your questions:
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[li]I don’t think JimmySteve is dead either. If they didn’t show us a body, he isn’t dead, IMO. I did think it was interesting that Beto showed up and gave Fiona a wad of cash. My take on it was that it was Beto’s money, but on other boards, people are guessing that JimmySteve had some set aside for Fiona. I personally think that his low tolerance for being broke and struggling would have made that unlikely, plus we already know that Beto thinks Fiona is too good for JimmySteve.[/li][li]Hard to say where Frank is going. I loved the scene where Carl shaved his head, even though it was kind of irritating me that apparently no one who works in that hospital notices a little boy coming in unattended or a guy in only a jonny leaving.[/li][li]Ian’s use of Lip’s identity will likely screw up Lip’s chances of getting that free ride to MIT. I don’t know if I really thought that Lip would go anyhow, and this gives him a great excuse to just cave to defeat.[/li][li]I love how fiercely protective Mandy can be of the people she loves. Yeah, yeah—bit of a problem when that means running Karen over, but the fact that she got hit with this news about Mickey and Ian last week and is just all “That’s all you’re going to say to him?” this week when Ian is leaving made me smile. That being said, I didn’t buy Mickey’s offer to keep things the same with Ian. If he was so repressed and closeted before the wedding, why would he just suddenly be all free with admitting his relationship with Ian now?[/li][/ul]
Did a bunch of actors’ contracts come up for renewal, or what? The writers set themselves up with easy ways to write half a dozen characters out of the show.
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…Ian’s use of Lip’s identity will likely screw up Lip’s chances of getting that free ride to MIT. I don’t know if I really thought that Lip would go anyhow, and this gives him a great excuse to just cave to defeat…
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One or both of them will walk away from this screwed. Ian didn’t just lie about his age he commited identity theft. If he ever get’s caught he’s in for alot worse than entry level seperation; there’s no chance he’d have another shot at the military (barring a major war) and he’d be facing felony charges. Worst case scenario for Lip is he doesn’t get to attend MIT; which it isn’t clear if he wants away. The really odd thing is Ian said he already completed the ASVAB and physical tests. :dubious: So did he take them as Lip, or did he really not think things through.
I think the writers really didn’t think things through.
Most season finales provide some satisfying resolutions for some matters and hook us in on others, but this one just seemed to leave me scratching my head – like I was the one who got that bad haircut. I was hoping for a little more.
As morbid as it sounds, I was kinda hoping for Sheila (Joan Cusack) to take a really bad turn, should have pulled at my heart strings more. Saying goodbye to, in essence, the three… no four… people that mattered to her should have really floored her. Or at least provided for a good sobbing.
I did like Fiona’s epiphany when Frumpy Office Lady told her that’s where she started 22 years ago. The notion of being stuck in a cube farm working as a cup salesman for the rest of my life would give me the heebie-jeebies, too, regardless if it was for the best. There’s no way that will last, BTW. Not interesting enough.
Kind of a chicken way to leave us with Jimmy/Steve. To not see in the season finale even a shred of what happened? Like the previous poster said, were just finding a way to hold off figuring out cast members’ future contracts?
They’re hot too. And it’s not like Frank hasn’t done it with guys before. It’d be even funnier if the conversion therapy guy had his suspicions too and wanted proof. As usually Jimmy’s an ass. I hope Jake McDorman has a nude scene coming up.
Mickey cleans up pretty well, and at least his bride was prettier than the other whores. I knew Ian do a drunken declaration of love as soon as I soon him go for the bar, but I was disapointed Mandy didn’t actually catch him & Mickey in the act.