So I’ve been chatting with someone for some time now and I recently found out they are a part of the ‘seduction’ community. I hear that community has a bad rep due to its views on women. However, he says he doesn’t hold views that like and told me this:
“I would say that maybe the best way to think about it is that there are a lot of ways to accomplish a single task, and in the case of the seduction stuff the “goal” is to have women like you. How do we know a woman likes you? Well for some they would say sex is the ultimate sign that a woman likes you. Therefore some people choose to believe that the more you sleep with women the more “successful” you are.
The original task I think is perfectly fine, wanting to be liked/loved is a natural thing we all want, but you can see how twisted that goal can become over time. So those that are the most visible and have the most “success” are often those that boast about the amount of women they have slept with. These people rarely care about if they harm the girl, only the fact that they slept with them, thus they do dishonest things to get them there.
In a lot of ways it’s like how if a person voted republican then you assume they are an idiot cause they voted for Trump, but not everybody who is republican is an idiot, it’s just the most vocal people give the group a bad name.
I would argue that the majority of the people who are interested in seduction come from a background of having great insecurities with women. At some point you may even think talking to a woman is offending them because they roll their eyes at you when you come and say hi. This is why I believe in a lot of the principles because it teaches you why come off so creepy when you say hi, why girls don’t like you, and how to improve at those things. How is your smile, are you well groomed, are you a good story teller, did you misread another persons body language? You learn a lot, and I honestly think you come out happier, but yes there are some lemons in the community too”
So I was wondering, should I associate with this person?
No, I’m a guy. I’ve established that before. I’m just not sure I want to be associated with someone who was part of something that treated women this way,
I saw some movie or TV show (or maybe even read it in a book) where a couple of women captured a PUA that had taken advantage of both of them and intended (but I don’t think actually carried it out for some reason or another) to get one of those burnable incense sticks and shove it up his urethra, then break it into pieces.
No, for one, I assume he’s probably 12 years old or has the mentality of a 12yo. Anyone who is part of something called “the Seduction Community” is pretty weird. Life’s too short.
He sounds like a douchebag. To be honest, he was a douchebag even before he decided to join this community of like minded douchebags. So I’d ridicule him and call him a douchebag. And then I wouldn’t be caught dead hanging out with the douchebag, because I would not want anyone mistaking me for being one of those douchebags.
He claims he’s not part of the community anymore as he told me he’s in a stable relationship and that he does disagree with the idea of treating women in a misogynistic fashion, but I am still wary.