Should I email these guys? (dating related, probably TLDR))

So last year, I decided I was out of the dating game. I’d gone on random online dates but I’ve never felt sparkage with any one I’ve met online. (they’ve always been nice guys but “eh”) And I have a pretty full life and don’t need someone to fill up time with. Plus, my libido isn’t all that strong so I have to really, really like a guy to be motivated. So I figured if I meet a great guy IRL OK, but I’m not gonna work at it.

Occasionally, I’ll idly think it might be nice to have someone to try new restaurants with, see the occasional movie, etc. and I’ll check out the profiles on Nerve.com and OKCupid. So last night I see a guy on OKCupid I think is kinda cute and who sounds amusing so I spend a few minutes and reactivate my profile.

Now I have five messages in my inbox and I’m feeling conflicted. They seem like OK guys but I don’t know if I want to go through the whole dating thing. And I feel guilty, like I’m putting myself out there as a reasonable person who is a potential dating partner when I really obviously have huge issues with dating and am probably a horrible candidate for anything. I honestly don’t know what I want but I really can’t see myself married or even living with someone. I like having lots of space and I think I’d go nuts if someone was just there all the time, like a lichen.

But I also know that dating and getting along with people is a skill and if I don’t make the attempt I’ll never learn. So I think maybe I should force myself to go out with more guys and I’ll start to enjoy the whole dance. Maybe I should be less picky about the sex thing and make myself sleep with more random guys and maybe it will become more appealing. But that’s probably stupid.

I dunno. What do y’all think? Should I get back up on that horse? Do I want to at all? Is it worth it? I go through this every single time I think about dating.

I have a friend who has the identical complaint. He dates because he thinks he should, not because he’s actually met girls he wants to date. And, unsurprisingly, he hates dating.

Dating isn’t mandatory, like paying taxes. Making yourself go out with guys you’re not interested in and especially making yourself sleep with “more random guys” isn’t going to help you and it definitely isn’t going to make you like dating any better.

Email the guy you were drawn to in the first place. Ignore the others.

Ditto. Because if the others are Dopers, they’re probably in the Pit bitching about their own dating experiences. :smiley: Seriously, why waste someone’s time?

What? Paying taxes is mandatory?

(Sorry.)

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it.

Thanks for the advice. Part of the reason I’m conflicted is because I thought the guy sounded interesting last night but now I’m having second thoughts about even emailing that guy. Thanks for the advice aboutt he other guys, sometimes having too many emails is so much pressure it make my chest feel tight.

Bleh. I’ve had a pathetic crush on a guy for like four years and he’s the only one I know right now that does it for me. But it’s a pretty much impossible crush and I’m totally cool with that but I haven’t met anyone else who even comes close to doing it for me and I won’t if I don’t meet people somehow but I’m not sure I even want to.

I’m sorry, I’m rambling here and wasting bandwidth. It’s kinda sad that I have such huge issues at FORTY. You’d think I’d have this stuff figured out by now. :dubious:

I think anybody who doesn’t have any “dating issues” probably has a whole other host of other issues that serve to mask anxiety about dating. And anyone who actually enjoys the process of dating–at least, the initial, awkward parts of it–is probably someone I could probably not share a cab ride without wanting to climb out the window while in motion. So I wouldn’t worry about misleading anyone else as to your issues; that’s just par for the course, and if you can at least be reasonable honest (without excessive or premature disclosure) then you’re a lot better dating option than many women (and I suppose the same is true for men).

I don’t think dating–especially in more culturally “progressive” areas is ultimately a precursor to marriage, and as long as you’re upfront about just wanting a somewhat casual, or at least not 'til-death-do-we-part oriented, relationship there is still a pool of like-minded people. While dating is probably always somewhat difficult even for people who don’t have an aversion to it, I think dating just for the sake of saying that you’re dating is probably its own endless well of unhappiness. It may be, as a friend keeps reminding me, that “you have to kiss a lot of toads…” but if you’re not prince-hunting, why kiss toads at all? That doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t take a chance on someone once in a while, but if someone really doesn’t strike you as being even interesting in lukewarm fashion, why waste an evening with them when you could be [del]enjoying a Sam Peckinpah mastepiece[/del], er, well, doing whatever gives you pleasure.

That being said, I have my own issues with dating, on-line or otherwise, and have pretty much given up the game, at least for right now. For the most part, I seem to be invisible to the type of women I’d be interested in, and the few who are “interested” in me seem to be so because they want something from me that I’m not offering. A fair portion of this is of my own making; I’m just not that interested in many subjects that make for light conversation, and am prone (though I try to police myself on this) to executing pedantic monologues on technical or somewhat arcane subjects that are frankly not of much interest to any sane person. I’m also not so much on the understanding of body language and non-verbal communication, and have a sense of humor that is perhaps a bit too dry and referential to work into general conversation. So I have friends that I spend time with when I want company, and rather insular and anti-social hobbies (reading, films, chess, learning languages, hiking) that would probably be difficult to find someone to share with on a regular basis anyway. It’s not as good as having someone to curl up with in front of the fire, but it also means that I don’t have someone pawing around through my stuff or nagging at me to be less like I am and more like they think I could be.

If I meet someone that I find attractive I’ll pursue it (in my socially-deficient, ham-fisted way–hey, at least I know now not to use public key encryption in electronic voting as an ice-breaker), but if I don’t, meh. Who the hell is going to want to go on a three month tour through Eastern Europe to look at the ecological damage wrought by the Soviet Union, or sea kayak around Alaska, or watch obscure Russian movies while attempting to master the language, anyway?

As for “mak[ing] [your]self sleep with more random guys”, while I don’t have any moral qualms about casual sex, personally I don’t think it’s all that great (and certainly less than safe) to sleep around with people you don’t even know very well or care anything about, even casually. I certainly don’t think it’s going to make dating any less painful. But that’s just me, and the whole zipless thing has never really been all that great; perhaps others have differing opinions.

Anyway, good luck to you.

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I’d say don’t date if your heart isn’t into it. You’re wasting the guy’s time if you do.

However, if you can get into a “friends only” relationship with a guy and really truly make them understand that’s all you want, then maybe more will develop if he’s the right guy. But most guys won’t truly want to do “friends only.”

I think anyone who’s Internet-dated for more than 24 hours has figured out that you’re not really “owed” an explanation for no response. That’s just how it works. If only 1 in 100 guys seem worth a try to you, that’s your business. If someone sends you a pissy message about ignoring them, then you’ve excluded an idiot.

Going on a bunch of dates can get you more comfortable with the whole process, especially if you’re a shy person. It’s like getting over stage fright. On the other hand, one or two really upsetting situations can sour you quickly on the whole thing. If the main downside for you is going to be the occassional hour of boredom on an uninspired coffee date, I’d say give a few of these guys a shot. I’ve found that people is real life are usually a lot more interesting than their dating profile. If it’s going to cause you significantly more anxiety that that, it’s probably not worth it.

A single guy, I feel obligated to say that causal, meaningless sex makes the Republicans really unhappy, so there’s one reason to do it.

Thanks for the responses y’all. I sucked it up and emailed the guy I originally liked. Maybe he’ll email back, maybe not. And I’m not gonna feel guilty about not emailing the guy who mentions his recent divorce and ex-wife every other sentence, dang it.

Well, you could e-mail him and tell him he’s an idiot.

Good Lord. Are you me?

I tried the OkCupid thing, but it really didn’t do it for me. I’ve decided I hate dating and that’s that. I like meeting people, I love sex, but I hate dating. Go figure.

I just can’t imagine too many people disagreeing with this sentiment.

I dunno. I have quite a few friends who do seem to enjoy the whole dating ritual, for all they bitch about “playing games.” Personally, I don’t like meeting people with some kind of social expectation in mind - all my past relationships have been based on previous friendships. I tried online dating for a summer and didn’t like it at all - everything just seemed too unnatural to me. It reminded me of the blind dates I subjected myself to when I was living in Korea, just because it was the expected thing to do for singles. Blech.

Ooh, I can disagree with the other part. I like spending time around people I already know. I dislike meeting new people.

While I’m happy you took the first step and actually emailed the guy, chalk me down in the in the “no” camp. Sure I’d like you to be happy, but if you feel like you’re trying to force it, without a whole lot of motivation I thin you will only end up disappointing yourself in the end.

Care to share/elaborate? If not, no biggie.

Good luck, I hope you have an email when you wake up this morning!

Unless you become to some degree insensitive to other people’s feelings, Internet dating is like walking into a singles bar with 100 people in it and being forced to say “No” to 99 of them to their faces before being allowed to talk to the one that you might like.

This might be a tangent, but there’s an article in the new Atlantic Monthly that kind of touches on some of these issues (her thesis seems to be that women need to “settle” for a guy they’re lukewarm on before they turn 35, although she doesn’t really seem to believe it). But one of her points that I find interesting is that the unmarried lose sight of the fact that even long-time married people can feel a huge amount of that same un-sparky indifference toward their spouse. In other words, the qualities that make for a magical first date aren’t necessarily the same qualities that make a good spouse.

Yeah, the online thing is really tricky. I’ve gotten pretty good at the first date; most guys want to see me again. But I’ve never really met anyone I was that interested in seeing again. It’s so tricky to judge chemistry online but it’s also really hard to meet people once you’re in the working world and out of school (where you have the opportunity to hang out with lots of your peers on a non-romantic basis so no pressure).

Eh. Ever met someone that you were just instantly attracted to but no one else could see it? That’s this guy. Everyone thought he was kinda a lunkhead at first (he joined my rowing club) but I was just smitten. And then it turns out he’s not actually a lunkhead but just a quiet, thoughtful guy. But, he’s probably too young for me (29 now, I think) and I’m not his type anyway (which tends to be very pretty, soft, Latina girls and I’m an average, slightly stringy caucasian). Everyone at the club (including him) knows I’m smitten but it’s not a big deal, I treat it as kind of a running joke now. But, dang it, he’s still the only guy right now that does it for me…

I read that article (via a link a Salon) and found it slightly insulting (every single women in her 30’s is desperate for a man? bleh) but that is a good point. And it’s articles like that that make me think I need to force myself to date more often even if I don’t feel it. Maybe I’m expecting too much and I need to get used to being with unexciting guys because that’s what a real relationship is. And then I have a panic attack and swear off dating for another year…

Well, the one guy I sent a message to finally replied, sounds interested and continues the conversation but then says he’s been dating someone for a couple of weeks. :dubious: Hmmm, I not sure where to go with that.

BTW, 'cause these threads are always way more fun with links, here’s my profile if anyone is interested.

It’s a problem for sure. I love dating but the last three years have been a disaster dating wise. At this point I have given up and am just doing what I like to do for fun. I stopped asking women out on dates about 9 months ago, I have lots of female friends that I do stuff with but nothing more. You can’t get rejected if you don’t ask, right?

I like to look around OKCupid and Nerve but no more trying for me.

Nice profile, tremorviolet]!