I totally agree with this interpretation. He’d played his hand, begged forgiveness and asked to come back, but Vanessa was having none of it. I think we saw him trying to put the next part of his life into some semblance of order. He probably deserves to be in this sorry state, but I felt sorry for him nonetheless.
I don’t think he is suicidal. Those are also the actions of a man saddened by the consequences of his own actions.
The difference in George on one hand and David and Nate on the other struck me. Nate is open to all of the possibilities with Brenda. David is facing that living means feeling pain. And George has closed himself off in fear of something that doesn’t even exist at the present moment.
Clair and Ruth are both people that I am very fond of but want to shake. Ruth should be smoking a little pot and Claire should be more cautious.
David really didn’t need to confront the hijacker once he could see how nuts the guy was. I don’t think he was afraid of him anymore.
Am I the only one here who believes that Nathaniel is not a figment of the Fisher’s imagination? Maybe I would settle for “a figment of memory,” but maybe something else. Molly Dodd had the same approach in the way that Molly related to her deceaed father.
I wasn’t sure why David had to go confront him in jail, anyway. Won’t he have to confront him at a trial? Sure, he probably won’t be able to talk like they did, but the whole “seeing your attacker” bit would play out again at a trial.
Would a defense attorney or prosecutor even want a crime victim to go visit his attacker in prison without either side around.
Who knows what the criminal could say to the guy? In the case of this episode, the guy pretty much confessed to the crime again, which didn’t help his cause and if the DA found out what he said, he would like ask for a lot more years on the sentence.
I’m pretty sure that was a straightforward way of giving us a contrasting image of George as something other than a meticulously-groomed tweedy academic.
Ya know, while Claire’s behavior seems out of hand, have you forgotten what it’s like to be about 19? You party a little too hard and you’re a little too self-absorbed and you make slightly stupid choices most of the time. I think they’ve gotten 19-year-old-art-student just about exactly right.
But yeah, Ruth should be toking a little. Right after she Baker Acts that nutjob she married.
I fear that I will hate Nate and Brenda even more, that is, they’ll be even more boring once we get through a couple get married-make a baby episodes. Bleh.
Right after she whats?
Baker Act is a law regarding the involuntary institutionalization of the mentally ill.
I’m not judging Claire; I’m judging the writers–they gave her character new characteristics without any rationale, motivation or background. Just out of the blue, she’s toking up 24/7.
Thanks.
As for Claire, yes, they have changed her character a bit, but remember the drug use isn’t exactly new… she was smoking crystal meth in the very first episode when Nathaniel, Sr. was killed.
I almost believe him when he said he met her at the beach to end it and she just left until he kept insisting Nat take a walk with him outside: Was Nat going to disappear too?
I not entirely sure he killed her – I think he was being pretty frank with Nate, and keeping the affair from his wife was his preoccupation. Going for a walk might have had sinister overtones, but it might also have just been to avoid having his secret discussed at such high volume with his wife in the house.
The last thing he said (after “I couldn’t let her tell Barb”) was “I could never hurt her-- I played my guitar, sang her a song, and we went our separate ways.”
Funny sort of confession of murder.
I just watched the episode again w/ a friend, and realized that on the first viewing I didn’t even notice that David hallucinated Crackhead Kidnapper in the guardhouse. Funny, I guess the uniform (and voice) was enough to provide continuity-of-character for my poor addled brain, regardless of mismatched skintones, etc.
Wait, what?
So David didn’t visit his kidnapper in jail?
I’m confused.
No, he visited him. But on his way in, David was being questioned by the guard before he could enter the common room. At one of the questions, the guard was the carjacker in a guard uniform, asking one of the standard questions - or so David thinks, as this is simply a hallucination. The real guard asks the question again, bringing David out of his momentary funk, David answers and proceeds to go in and have a bizarre visit where the kidnapper essentially tells David that he should be apologizing, not the kidnapper, and then he trys to talk David into coming back to visit again, since he (David) is all the kidnapper has anymore. I didn’t care for the visit at all. It didn’t clear anything up - we already knew crack boy was a freaking psycho, and it didn’t give David any closure at all. That took his dead father finally knocking some perspective into his head.
I think you’re right; he didn’t kill Lisa. But this is yet another thing that didn’t ring true about this episode – he’d rather die (literally) than admit to having an affair.
I don’t think it’s clear at all that Hoyt murdered Lisa. He says, “I played guitar for her.” and that “I didn’t kill her.”. It seems he didn’t consider gun munching until he noticed his wife eavesdropping and crying on the stairwell. I think that was his motivation, his adultery with her dead sister. However, it is unclear and leaves some questions. Also, I’m pretty sure that Maya is Nate’s. Lisa was quite clear that she was the product of their one night fling in Seattle in an earlier episode. Somehow, I don’t think Lisa would have stuck it out with Nate if she wasn’t.
I’m shocked that so many ppl are having a hard time with this. Was it the “I played the guitar for her” comment that turned you to mush?
Lisa & Nate never had what I would call a happy relationship. Maybe that was due to the fact she was letting Hoyt snap her bean the whole time.
AFAIC, the big question that wasn’t answered was how did the daughter know? Her freaky actions lead me to think that she had been visited by Lisa’s spirit. While Lisa may not have told her about having an affair with her dad, she could have instructed her on giving the book with the picture enclosed.
Hoyt says he didn’t do “anything violent”. But he could have just held her head down in the water or something like that.
Lisa wasn’t big and Hoyt was.
Ummmm, isn’t that just the kind of thing someone in Lisa’s predicament WOULD say to the pigeon she wanted to nail as the daddy, if she KNEW that the real daddy was married to her sister?
And she didn’t actually stick it out with Nate, then, did she?
If the baby is supposed to be the child of Hoyt and Lisa, they should have cast some twins that had dark hair instead of blonde ones.