Really? Where do you get that from? Right now, CNN has Tester up by just under two thousand votes.
Sorry, you’re correct. I was temporarily suffering under the delusion that Burns was maintaining that lead over Tester, and not the other way around.
But there’s apparently been some controversy with malfunctioning voting machines in Montana’s key counties, so I guess we’ll have to see how that plays out.
If I understand it right, Yellowstone County has to recount all their votes because they didn’t reset the tabulator? Something like that. They won’t be doing that till this morning.
Doesn’t really matter who wins in Montana and Vermont as far as politicing goes – the Senate is going to be split down the middle, and a lot of the newly elected Dems are quite conservative, for Dems. The moderates are going to control the Senate, simple as that, because things are so close. The far right has lost its grip. To someone like me, it’ll seem like there’s not much difference in what the Senate does, but the ultra conservatives out there are going to feel like they’ve been kicked in the nuts. Because they have been.
Virginia - Webb up by 6,931 votes and here’s what’s still out:
Fairfax City 6 out of 7 counted. Leans slightly D
Halifax County 21 out of 22 counted. Leans moderately R
Isle of Wight County 12 out of 13 counted. Leans slightly R
James City County 11 out of 16 counted. Leans moderately R
Loudon County 57 out of 58 counted. Leans slightly D
Best comment I’ve heard so far this morning:
(Regarding Missouri’s Amendment 2, allowing embryonic stem cell research) “That cloning amendment passed… that’s not a good thing. I mean, what if they cloned Bin Laden?”
:smack:
I agree that ultimately, all that matters is that the rubberstamping of ultraconservative opinions is over. However, I don’t think one can say that Brown (OH), McCaskill (MO), Tester (MT) or Whitehouse (RI) are “quite conservative.” You might make that argument about Casey (PA), and perhaps to a lesser extent about Webb (VA). I’m just not sure that this framing of “the Democrats won by running to the right” is accurate or helpful.
I didn’t read pages 5 & 6 (after I logged last night), but the House going to the Dems is huge,
and for this possible scenario:
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McCain doesn’t convince many Repos that he is sincere in his recent run to the right, and
someone else gets the nom. -
McCain then decides to run as an independent
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McCain gets enough electoral votes to prevent a majority in the Electoral College
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The election is then decided by the House, which means Hillary likely is our next
president.
I don’t think there is a hard turn to starboard by the good ship Democrat. The Democratic tent has expanded a little bit and right-thinking views on some of the social issues like abortion and gun control are not disqualifiers from being welcome in the party. Don’t forget that the committee chairs are going to be manned by the old liberal guard, not the more moderate latecomers.
From what I understand, many more simply left, finding the increasingly irate company of lefty moonbats too much to take, presumably. One member of reknown said the place had become “uncomfortable”, or something very much to that effect.
McCain’s not going to convince anyone if he starts the new era with a lie an and admission of corruption :
I think his time may be past.
So, do y’all think the VA results will be contested at some point, whatever they turn out to be? I’m not just talking recounts, I’m talking pitched court battles, allegations of fraud, etc.
I was thinking the conservative/moderate Dems in the House would have the ability to block legislation by reaching across the aisle to conservative/moderate Pubbies. But you know, with a 30-seat Dem majority, that’s not gonna happen. The Dems will get to play it as they wish. Works for me!
Well, Pombo gone ( almost surely, the outstanding votes are all from Alameda county, not likely to be a source of strength for him ) ) in California’s 11th. I believe that he had been the last federal Republican office holder left in the nine county SF Bay Area ( he was barely Bay Area at that, his bizarrely gerrymandered district is half in, half out ). The national bastion of all that is eeeviillll and liberal just became more so :p.
- Tamerlane
I’m gonna follow xtimse and offer hearty congrats to the victors. Congrats, people.
Reality has a well-known liberal bias. If anything was making them uncomfortable, it should have been their own party screaming as it fell of the rightward cliff…
“fell off”
That’s super cool. For whatever it’s worth, this MO voter is simply beside himself that a Democrat managed to beat a Republican in Kansas. And Sebelius is still Guv, although that was a given. Please tell her as much when you next speak to her.
And this one had me on pins and needles. I went to bed with things looking bad for McCaskill as well as Amendment 2, only to be given a delightful surprise upon waking.
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Best comment I’ve heard so far this morning:
(Regarding Missouri’s Amendment 2, allowing embryonic stem cell research) "That cloning amendment passed… that’s not a good thing. I mean, what if they cloned Bin Laden?"QUOTE]
Still a few pockets of ignorance to be mopped up in the populace. All in due time, though.
I don’t know. I think that seems accurate to me. People aren’t so much ‘Yay, democrats’ as much as ‘we have to stomp this stupid shit, it’s getting worse.’
The Party of Lincoln has lost all principles. I’m going to do what I can to change it, and I just hope this broke the back of the Reagan Wave.
Mister, we could use a liberal like Richard Nixon again. (EPA. 18 year old voting. China…)