In all honesty if “The Rock” Duane Johnson had been involved I think there would have been even more suspicion that the whole thing was staged and a work due to Johnson’s past as pro wrestler.
As a pro wrestling fan I am naturally suspicious of any sort of physical confrontation at a public event between two celebrities.
And frankly considering how the whole thing between Smith/Chris Rock transpired I still think this whole thing was staged.
It doesn’t beg any such question from me. I don’t think of myself as a violent person as I’m more prone to de-escalate a situation than I am to escalate it, but even my buttons can be pushed. Early in my marriage, Mrs. Odesio and I were car shopping in Little Rock and at the first dealer we went to she would ask the sales associate a question and instead of answering her he would look at me and answer the question. I was bemused by this at first but as this continued I could see that my wife was hurt and angry. No, I didn’t respond by slugging the salesman in his face. But I invaded his space, got right in his face, and raised my voice telling him that when she asked him a question he needed to answer her and not me. I’m sure I didn’t leave a positive impression with the other customers who probably only saw a crazy person.
This whole type of mindset pisses me off so much. There is so much shit in the world right now caused by people who want to pretend that reality isn’t actually real. “It’s staged!” “It’s fake!” “It’s a hoax!” No actual evidence, just “I feel it’s staged so it must be fake.”
Idiotic bullshit.
Haven’t read the thread; apologies for any redundancy.
I would have expected this level of arrogance from Will Smith. I haven’t forgotten the way he let his kids carry on when they were teenagers. What stopped me in my tracks was the two, loud F-bombs. And the tone he used. “Kinda ghetto,” is what my friend who is of color, and from Detroit, said.
As for Rock’s comments, come on. Anyone who thinks that was out of line has never seen the Oscars in recent years. Even if he knew Jada has alopecia and was trying to be mean about it, storming the stage was still not warranted. You frown, you make a “cut” gesture, you call out “I’ll see you after the show!”. You don’t slap someone in front of almost literally the world.
Also, reportedly Jada gave her husband a “You better!” look, after he initially laughed at “G.I. Jane”, which he obeyed by going up on stage. Good grief, woman. If she herself had stood up where she was and calmly said, “I don’t appreciate that. I think you know why I look like this. Not cool, Chris,” she would be praised for her dignity. Instead, her husband looks like a bigger donkey excavation than Michael Moore did in '03. Fantastic.
It matters since he did an entire movie about black women’s hair and the emotional history that goes with it. If he didn’t know she had alopecia then it was an innocent joke about a trendy hair cut. If he did know then it was a cruel joke.
But Will Smith was at an event that was saturated with red carpet interviews. He could have verbally slapped Chris Rock into next Tuesday.
I think my main reaction is to be impressed at how calm Rock was in what must have been a really stressful situation. In the circumstances I think " That was the greatest night in the history of television" is a pretty funny line.
The abuser here, if that’s what it really is, is Chris Rock, who publicly humiliated a woman over her medical problems secure in the knowledge that he could do it without consequences. Lighten up, it’s just a joke, right? Humiliating her over her looks was his job, so it’s no big deal.
I wonder what would the response have been if SHE walked up to the stage and slapped him? I would have suggested a parade. Rock is, frankly, lucky that it was her husband instead of her.
Chris Rock roasts celebs, they’re just words. He didn’t “deserve” to be hit.
Will Smith has always seemed like a reasonable guy to me. Whether he is or isn’t, if he decided to interrupt the Oscars to walk up on stage slap/hit Chris Rock then he has some serious anger management problems. If he really had serious beef with Chris Rock why not go to his dressing room after the show, why commit assault in front of millions of people?
Based on all that I would tend to say it’s staged.
I’m of the belief that you have one job there as a comedian. Tell jokes. If you are hit you are hit; sad but don’t stop telling jokes. Just DIRECT the jokes at a target now. …and be ready to receive even more violence.
Let their violence show itself. or hide. or run. but keep telling jokes. You shouldn’t have to be bruised or assaulted for your craft/gig/art but if you are… wear it.
I seriously doubt it. I’m not very violent and I don’t take offense at words easily. Neither does my wife. But I’ve never been in the position, as Mr, Smith seemingly was, of having so deeply disappointed my wife in front of millions of people.
And, this may sound stupid based on what you all saw, but did Smith really use force, or did he use non-verbal communication to convey an insult? Sure, there was some level of contact, but it didn’t look like Mr. Smith was aiming to hurt anyone. It was described upthread as “performative.” That sounds right to me.
Mr. Smith’s reaction was untoward, uncivil, and likely illegal. I’m not condoning it. I can understand it, however, without believing Mr. Smith is a fundamentally violent person or spouse abuser, as others have suggested.
Hey, Will Smith physically assaulted a man at an internationally-televised black-tie event. Chris Rock got open-palm slapped by the Pat Boone of rap. Neither of their reps are unbruised after last night
I think striking Rock was force (by any definition), and it also was a threat of more severe force unless he shut up. How it would have played out… we don’t know. Rock shut up.
When someone has made an offensive comment from stage or podium, I express my response in written evaluation and (if useful) follow-up with organizational leadership (if professional), or by leaving (if "entertainment or similar). This is not difficult.
I agree it was force but I was trying to make a point; the slap didn’t seem to carry any actual intent to physically harm. If Mr. Smith had been waving his finger in front of Mr. Rock’s face and accidentally swiped his nose, it would technically also be force. The slap seemed more likely intended to convey displeasure than to cause physical harm. The slap was definitely intended to insult Mr. Rock. Perhaps it could be interpreted as a threat of more severe force. Do we know if Mr. Rock saw it as such? It seems Mr. Rock doesn’t want prosecution.
This is bordering on obtuse. I’m not sure I want to argue how striking Rock midsession in the Oscars and angerly demanding he not invoke Jada’s name isn’t a threat of more severe force.