No, he’s talking to you, the person who acknowledges that you oppose allowing homosexuals to adopt children, while advising against “extreme action,” policing people’s morals, and infringing on people’s rights.
Do you simply not realize that by opposing the right for same-sex couples to adopt children, you are infringing on my rights? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that same-sex couples are any less capable of raising children in their best interest than heterosexual couples are?
Well, will you please stop SAYING that and FUCKING EXPLAIN IT???
What about being raised by loving gay parents who are just as qualified to raise a kid as any straights is a violation of anyone’s human rights?
I realise sometimes that being stuck out in an outpost like Hong Kong, it’s easy for me to lose touch with developments in other parts of the world.
In which countries (or states in the US) has adoption of children by same sex couples been okayed by the government? I’d like to look into the situation of those particular places.
Jesus, here you go again, dodging the question.
In some states its legal, in some states evil, monstrous, backwards Christian bigots have kept it illegal.
There is no evidence that children raised by gay parents are any less happy, less well-developed, less academically capable, less moral or less anything with the possible exception of intolerant than children of straight parents.
So what fucking human rights violation are you talking about?
Seriously, bodswood, that’s a terribly insulting thing to say, especially if you refuse to explain it. How is being adopted by gay parents is a violation of one’s human rights?
Crap. Delete second “is.”
Love God (with all the heart, the soul, and the mind); love your neighbour. Upon these hang the laws and the prophets. The central commandments of Christianity are expressed in terms of love and loving behaviour. (And where love was in conflict with law, Jesus was not known for going with legalisms.)
Declaring people to be unworthy on the basis of their love strikes me as being incompatible with an ethic that is expressed in terms of love as centrally important.
Oh yeah? WHY? How would it harm the child?
And yeah, it’s a human rights issue, only not the way you seem to think it is.
Several Canadian provinces permit same-sex couples to adopt.
Here’s something else you might be interested in: American Academy of Pediatrics Supports Adoption by Same Sex Parents
Matt, I believe a large number of pediatricians dissent from the position promulgated in that document. There are indeed a number of studies on either side, none of them conclusive, many of them with methodological problems. As Chuchill once said, “I don’t trust any statistics that I haven’t falsified myself”.
At base, my position is that a homosexual relationship runs risks of depriving a child of the emotionally stable environment that he or she requires to such an extent that I do not support them.
How is a loving gay couple any less capable of providing emotional stability to a child than a loving heterosexual couple?
Lilairen, I believe love is best understood as choosing the best for the other person. On these grounds I oppose homosexual adoption.
Spectrum, my response to Lilairen would serve as my response to your question.
That is not a fucking answer, it’s a platitude.
Answer the question: what could you and some woman provide a child that I and my partner could not?
What parenting skills do gay couples lack?
You are accusing an entire swath of humanity of being unfit parents. You have to support your position with more than platitudes and your normal gleeful ignorance.
So support your fucking position.
Spectrum, there’s a whole literature on this. You’re probably familiar with it, if you read stuff that opposes your stance as well as stuff that supports it.
I’m not going to be drawn to detail specifics because I can’t see it would be constructive, to say the least.
Dodge dodge dodge.
Jesus Fucking Christ – support your attack on my character, on the character of every gay person in the entire world, or retract it.
Answer the fucking questions:
Why is a gay couple unsuited for parenthood?
What is it that straight couple provides that a gay couple cannot?
You cannot accuse me of such a dispicable thing as being unable to be a fit parent without supporting it.
Y’all are on your own with this one. I’m done. My head hurts from pointless circular arguments. And from the irony of this thread’s devolving into spectrum’s getting pissed off at another poster over gay rights.
Well, we’ve had it here in Massachusetts for years. What matters is people’s qualifications to provide homes, as individuals or as couples, not who they form adult loving relationships with. (To address the non sequitur.)
(Now, the point, which you missed.) The condemnation of homosexuality is a condemnation of people on the basis of who they love.
In the choice between love and law, which do you pick?
Jesus healed on the Sabbath.
So I shouldn’t get pissed off and respond when some shitbag Christian bigot calls all gays everywhere unfit parents?
And then isn’t even man enough to defend his accusation. He’s just another pathetic fundamentalist Christian coward. I think they come in six packs now, there are so damn many of them.
If he had a lick of decency, a shred of a soul, he’d stand up for his anti-gay hate and explain his belief. But he isn’t even enough of a man to do that.
“I think [fundies] come in six packs now, there are so damn many of them.”
Not on this board, it seems.