They have fought, at least twice. That Spiderman vs Wolverine thing someone mentioned in 87, and one of the early issues of McFarlain’s Spiderman (early 90s) when Spidie was trying to stop Wendigo - who he thought was a killer, and Wolvie was defending Wendy (heehee).
IIRC, they fought to a standstill this second time, too.
Analysing the fight logically:
Wolvie wouldn’t be able to touch Spidie, if Peter kept his wits about him. He could keep a good distance, pin Wolvie’s arms to his side with webbing (Claws can’t get at it), hang him by his ankles from the nearest tree/building, and chuck rocks at him.
On the other hand, Wolvie’s healing factor would keep him in the game long enough for the webbing to dissolve, forcing Spidie to start the whole thing over again.
Conclusion - draw.
Unless the goal is ‘keep him out of my hair long enough to finish what I was doing’ in which case, I have to give the edge to Spidie.
(BTW, thinksnow, The Tick isn’t Image (New England Comics, IIRC), nor is GEN-13, now (Top Cow is now part of DC).)
They fought one time I remember . . . basically it came down to Spiderman could win, but in order to do so, he’d have to kill wolverine, which he wasn’t willing to do.
Moved on to manga a long time ago . . .
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“Not good bodyguards, but they absorb bullets reasonably well . . .”
Lemme see… Spidey avoids Wolverine using his spider sense so Wolvie can’t lay a claw on him. Spidey wraps him up in webbing and hangs him from the nearest tree. Spidey can then have his way with him.
Nightcrawler tries to get the jump on Spidey by “bamffing” in but since Spidey senses him coming Nightcrawler gets punched into next week the moment he appears.
Cyclops tries to flash fry Spiderman but again… spider sense. A little webbing to the eyes and Cyclops is done. He has no super strength and before he can get another look at Spidey he gets trussed up like a Thanksgiving turkey. Spidey bitch slaps him at will.
Collossus comes in and due to his lack of speed Spidey easily webs him and uses him like an Olympian uses a hammer… Cyclops is thrown so far he has no opportunity to rejoin the battle. Come on, Spidey has faced the Hulk.
Who’s left… Storm. She can’t touch him. He’s too damn fast and that infernal spider sense keeps Spidey out of harms way. A lapse in focus on Storm’s part allows Spidey to get within striking distance and Storm is done too.
Spidey doesn’t need a killer instinct in this fight. He’s aware of Wolvie’s healing factor and unbreakable skeleton, so he knows nothing he does can kill Wolverine. So he’s free to act in any way that will end the fight.
He could pull down a building, or drop a car on Wolverine, knowing that he’s just inconveniencing the short guy. Spidey wins.
Yeah, but Spidey could also poke a finger in to Wolvie’s brain through the temple, and stir them goodies up with a spoon. Wolvie might heal, but who is to say that he’d be mean anymore? He might turn into a near-invincible televangelist.
Well, a lot of people seem to be going with the assumption that this is pre-adamantium-removal. Therefore Spidey’d have to be eight ways of special to poke his finger through the temple.
Assuming that Wolvie’s back down to non-metallicaness: Logan himself did something very similar to Sabretooth back in '96 or '97 (right before I lost track of my subscriptions and the storylines). Sabretooth (is his real name Creed, or is that somebody else?) ACTED all nice and sweet and docile but was still F***ED-UP-KILL-YOUR-MOMMA-JUST-TO-WATCH-HER-DIE, DEATH-DOOM-MURDER-MAYHEM-CHAOS-DESTRUCTION-BUT-MOSTLY-DDDDDEEEEEAAAAATTTTHHHH on the INSIDE. I can foresee this happening with Wolverine in a twisted plot involving somebody else out to get him so he FEIGNS being a near-invincible televangelist, then goes medieval on their heinies.
Yes, but who’s Will? Is Jean involved? Is Cyke not “dead” anymore?
Excellent, even if you did call Pyotr “Cyclops.”
Wrong. Storm parks herself in the lower stratosphere and zaps all and sundry into submission with lightning bolts, tornadoes, and hailstones. Didn’t you play that game?
But before she does…Storm would like you to let Spidey beat up Gambit and Rogue, too!
Speaking of Sabretooth, they have made it sort of understood that he and Wolverine are eveny matched. However, Spidey fans no doubt recall what happened when Sabretooth came up against Spider-Man. He got a face full of web, and injured himself severely trying to pull it off.
Andyman: If you’re referring to the original Green Goblin (Norman Osborne), Spidey was pounding the shit out of him in original series #122, but stopped when he realized he was on the point of killing the Goblin. He paused and the Goblin activated his jet glider, sending it at Spidey’s back. Thanks to his spider sense, Spidey ducked and the glider impaled the Goblin. I don’t know about the subsequent Green Goblins as I quit reading Marvels after they cancelled Shang-Chi, Master of Kung Fu.
But thanks, andyman, for pointing out that Spidey can be an SOB when he wants to. Read some of the very early issues in the original series (they are in the early 30’s) when Doc Octopus had stolen a radioactive serus essential for saving Aunt May’s life. Spidey went so berserk he trashed half the New York underworld and caused Doc Ock to repeat in near-panic.
IMO, if a honest writer handled the contest, Spider-Man would win hands down. He is much smarter than Wolverine, he has the spider sense to alert him to any sneak attack, he has super-speed and super-agility, and he has super-strength. This cat has lifted objects weighing several tons, duked it out with the Lizard, Dr. Octopus and several other villains with super-strength, and stopped a run-away roller coaster car. He also has his webbing, the most marvelous chemical in the Marvel Universe. I remember a special issue of Marvel published several years ago that clearly stated Spidey is much stronger than Wolverine.
In a fight to the death (highly unlikely because Spidey is also much more ethical than Wolverine), he could immobilize Wolverine with his webbing; then tear him apart. At some point, Wolverine’s healing factor is bound to fail unless you assume healing factor = immortality.
Ahhh… my bad about the Green Goblin, my facts were a bit mixed up. BTW, I’ve got a “Marvels Greatest Hits” type book the features the series with the serum for his Aunt. He was buried under about 20 tons of metal wreckage and managed to get himself hyped enough to bust his way out. Also, I think its right after that that Doc Oc’s crew jumps him, and he just basically just went ballistic on them. Great classic stuff!
Spidey took on the whole X-Team at once, laughing all the way.
I believe the team at the time was Cyclops, Colossus, Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Storm. I’m pretty sure there was no Jean Grey at the time, and I doubt they had Professor X with em, otherwise Spidey’d be sitting in the corner wearing a funny hat.
I don’t think adding Gambit (he sucks) to the X-men would have made a shred of difference… Spidey would have made Gambit his bitch in seconds and as illustrated, Rogues strength wasn’t sufficient to destroy Spidey’s webbing.
Only Prof X could be considered a threat. Psychic attacks are a bitch.
His most dangerous enemies have been the ones who are most like him… Venom and Carnage. Both are visions of what Peter Parker would have become had he not been such a goody two shoes. They possess all his abilities and no remorse for what they do. He beat them too.
Batman? puhleese!
Batman pulls up in the Batmobile, in attempting to subdue Spiderman he uses every weapon at his disposal and doesn’t even scratch Spiderman. Knowing that batman is out of ammo Spidey walks right up to Batman who tries every martial art move he knows and doesn’t even make contact. Batman is now physically exhausted. Knowing this he attempts to retreat but Spidey picks up the Batmobile and swats Batman as one would a fly.
I’d like to direct your attention to Frank Miller’s “Batman: The Dark Knight Returns” in which a middle-aged Batman kicks Superman’s ass quite effectively, then fakes his own death so he can fade away. You know, Superman. Super strength, super speed, super reflexes…of course Batman fought dirty, but it’s the results that count…
Sometimes writers will rig something to get around Spider-Man’s abilities. Good writers don’t seem to have trouble creating genuine tension and plausible threats around Spider-Man’s talents. But I recall a very bad period once in which it seemed that everybody had something that scrambled his Spider Sense. Bad, bad writing.
I also remember a time that Spider-Man fell into a completely implausible trap set by Punisher. He went to a trapdoor into a cage, where the Punisher was waiting with a shotgun. Spider-Man can dodge lasers, but for some reason he can’t react in time to avoid a 10-foot drop.
If you want to take out Spider-Man, here’s what you need: A busload of gap-toothed children, doe-eyed puppies and singing nuns. If he didn’t sacrifice himself right away, the guilt would kill him.
