I think you mean Dominion or Breen. The Cardassians were never anything more than the Italians to the Dominion’s Germany.
For what it’s worth, quantum torpedoes have a charge of at least 50 Isotons making them, on the average, three times as powerful as photorps.
For comparison – assuming that my 1 isoton = 3.6 megatons formula is correct – the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima had a warhead of 0.0056 isotons.
(Which, I guess, would be 11.2 isopounds. 
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I dunno, I didn’t follow DS9 that closely. I do remember a Cardassian ship in one of those last episodes blowing a hole clean through a fully shielded enemy ship though. Couldn’t say what type the dead ship was, but I think the Cardassian ship was a Hutet class.
Huh. That ship class looks totally unfamiliar to me. It’s been four years since I’ve seen an episode of DS9 though. God damned TV execs not playing reruns. :mad:
I’m surprised no one has yet mentioned the ultimate deal-breaker (what with the fact that we’re in different technological spheres here):
The Star Wars universe is still using “lasers”.
Unless there’s a manual somewhere that states that “lasers” aren’t actually “lasers”, anything in the ST universe with shields has nothing to worry about.
But, it is true, that SW used to beat ST in the coolness factor.
Now that we have some crap movies out there though, I’d say that saying SW is cool because of Han Solo (who does rock the coolness meter off its socks) is like saying that ST is cool because of Q. One iota of coolness doth not a cool series make.
There is. Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology. Turbo “lasers” are actually higher-powered variants of the same technology that’s in an X-wing’s or Snowspeeder’s “blasters”. The planet-destroying beam fired from the Death Star is called a “superlaser”, and there’s no doubt that such a weapon would make short work out of any ship in the Star Trek universe.
(Of course, the Death Star would have to get into a position from which it could actually shoot at the Trek starship in order for its superlaser to do any good. If the Trek ship stayed “behind” the Death Star – an easy feat to accomplish, given the Death Star’s lack of mobility – the Death Star could only shoot at the Trek ship with its plain old turbolaser batteries.)
It’s just not as fun without **SPOOFE ** giving us book titles and page numbers .
He probably ran out of toothpaste.
Okay, Clueless Lad, I give up. What does running out of toothpaste have to do with failing to post Star Wars book-chapter-and-verse references in an ST vs. SW thread?
I’m guessing he was implying that SPOOFE wanks to SW and needs toothpaste to get the best results.
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Ah, but the Clone Wars shorts brought the coolness factor right back up again.
As to the overall debate, it really depends on just what you mean by SW vs ST. Obvously Q is kinda overmatch (unless you’ve got a magic musket. Don’t get me started on that ep…). Equally the C29th Feds or some of the freakier aliens out there would be a lot scarier than the TNG Feddies.
Part of the problem is that things like firing at warp, ships with serious firepower and defences, and vaguely competent ground troops all existed back in Kirk’s day but have disappeared since.
As to the whole laser thing, you’ll note that none of the weapons used in either series are lightspeed radiation. Thus, not really lasers. It’s just a cool name.
Star Trek captains like to scoff at lasers, but let’s look at this logically. Shields clearly have a finite capacity to absorb energy before failure, and in some cases the shield generators can be damaged before total failure occurs. Lasers are electromagnetic energy. Therefore, a powerful enough laser can defeat a Star Trek shield. It may be that in Trek, phasers were invented before extremely powerful lasers were developed, or it may be that such lasers are cost or size prohibitive. Even ignoring the fact that Star Wars “lasers” don’t act like real world lasers (that is, they take a perceptible amount of time to reach the target, they come in short bolts rather than a continuous beam, and they are visible from the side in space), they are extremely powerful.
:eek: Remind me never, ever, ever to use toothpaste as a lubricant!
Why would you *need * reminding?
…It’s a little late, but I thought I might mention the semi-famed Turbolaser Commentaries page. The author of which has made some estimates about the power levels of the energy weapons used by Star Wars spacecraft. For example, he estimates that each laser blast from an X-Wing puts out about 600 Gigajoules of energy, and one of the turbolaser batteries onboard an ISD might put out 6700 terajoules per shot.
Comparing this to the known power output of Starfleet shield generators and phaser banks might prove informative.
Ya know, I’ve watched a few episodes of TNG from my box sets lately, and it occurs to me that Trek tech isn’t very robust. They’re always losing the starboard power coupling, shields go offline all the time, etc. Maybe it’s because Trek battles are comparatively rare, they don’t have the experience to design proper warships.
Yeah, but then they can turn around and reroute the quantum phase-modulated tachyon stream through the induced polarity emitter array, thereby establishing a charged solitonic polaron field within a static warp shell which will create a coherent burst of neutrino flux in the ambivulent bivationary falvebarms. Top that, Star Wars universe!