I’m entertained by it and am planning to keep watching. I like to nit pick. I also like to see what nits I didn’t find to pick. 
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Called It!
Excellent episode! Don’t view my comments until you’ve watched it. Really.
I expected Sol to die. Instead, all the Jedi except Sol died. Ouch!
And the ole twin switcheroo. That’ll make for some interesting shenanigans in the final confrontation.
Golpherman and Piphead should figure it out quickly.
Episode 4 and 5 really needed to be a single episode.
Much more good than bad this time!
Revisiting this comment?
Definitely grew up from the kiddie show, and first impression of the villain corrected! Whiplash again but in a good way!
I remain annoyed with Sol’s “I’ll explain soon” refrain.
Yord knew him? Sol did not recognize. Huh.
Oh I’m an idiot. From ep 2. Duh.
I’m not one of the haters, but boy howdy, I didn’t like these developments!
I thought that was one of the best episodes of Star Wars tv made so far.
Wow that episode was good. I am back onboard.
I have a lot of thoughts.
I liked the episode. In today’s streaming, and fewer episodes, I can’t tell if all episodes link together, or should. This one and the previous one obviously do but as we are getting one story overall, should we be surprised when more don’t look like the last two? In other words, I think we should we be getting a long form movie or mini series that flows well from episode to episode. I won’t be able to say until I see them all.
I have concluded that Jedi can’t fight. Jedi start as a group to arrest or detain someone and end up down to one. That one Jedi either dies or the opponent gets away for a draw, but rarely a win starting as a group. I don’t know if this is because Sith/Dark Jedi focus on fighting or Jedi don’t focus on it as much. It’s too bad they don’t comment on this in some way. They could say that they don’t focus on fighting with Jedi now that peace has been around for however long. It would explain why they lose.
I like the bad guy more than most of the Jedi. It’s the ol’ he’s honest with himself and what he wants. The Jedi we have seen have something to hide or play at politics. Sure, some of it is drama, like Sol NOT explaining before being knocked out. (Although, at least there isn’t time for him to explain.) I find that when two Masters are talking and one doesn’t want to explain themselves and expects the other to follow orders, it makes their character look bad. Jedi are supposed to be without emotion, which seems to imply logic. If one Master can’t explain to another their viewpoint logically, I think they have failed or aren’t thinking logically.
I don’t think any movie or TV show has mentioned the fighting styles. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I know the books did, and the EU has it (now called Legends, I think) but that’s it. Lightsaber combat styles for those interested. I think it’s too bad because if some stunt coordinator defined them, it would be a cool thing to use.
As for showing the fighting styles, I think it’s possible. The show Leverage had an episode where the Hitter faced off against someone and set himself. Then he saw how they set themselves and he saw the fight in his mind and his losing. He changes his stance and now his opponent sees themselves losing to the Hitter, so they change their stance. This happens three times, I think. My Google-Fu is failing me in finding it.
I think that the Jedi want this mysterious reputation to make it easy for themselves. It seems to work that way more often than it works against them. The problem is that the writers make them mysterious even to each other, which makes no sense. I would have thought Jedi, among themselves, would be quite open, forthright, and honest. It makes all Jedi look petty to me, which is why it annoys me so much.
One spoiler: The actress playing Jecki is listed as being in three more episodes.
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Huh. Suprising to see that, but I was thinking at the time how inconsistently Star Wars deals with injuries. Sometimes a stab wound is treated as hopelessly fatal, sometimes a half corpse is repaired with cybernetics. But Smilo Ren displayed Force Healing ability last night. Maybe he could have revived her for Reasons.
They did touch on this in part. When Yord was escorting Mae back to their ship, he said the Dark User didn’t fight like the Jedi, how he was “breaking all the rules of combat” or some such thing, and making things up as he went along. Then, at the end, the Dark User made the point that he wanted to use his power as he saw fit, not just within the confines of what the Jedi would allow.
So the idea is, yes, the Jedi learn to fight (we saw younglings going through drills a couple of times), but their style is very rigidly defined. That limits their imagination, such as: No Jedi would ever contemplate Force Pulling someone onto the end of their light saber.
The Jedi are so used to being the Ultimate Bad-Asses in the Galaxy, they’ve become complacent, and can’t react quickly enough when someone changes the rules on them.
Well, they are alien species. Maybe she’s from a species that doesn’t have clearly defined major organs like humans do, so being stabbed through the chest isn’t as fatal. It reduces her overall health, but not necessarily to the level of dying about it.
Or wear a helmet made of a metal that shorts out lightsabers and deliberately stick your head in the path of lightsabers to short them.
Dont know if anyone here watches Charlie Hopkinson, but I guess he called it.
Qui-Gon: “Those poor Jedi. I was told the Sith were dead for millenia. So they are all going to die.”
Okay, fair point. I did forget that. As I think of it, that is interesting.
I took the comment of wanting to use his power as he saw fit, as in selfishly. Getting things as he wanted, into places he shouldn’t be, or whatever. Now, though, I’m wondering if the Force is really powerful and Jedi are taught a tiny fraction of it, limiting themselves, whereas Dark Users aren’t. That is interesting!
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That move was interesting! That is really trusting your gear!
As a concept, this is a tough one. Lucas says that a lightsaber can cut through anything. Later writers need that not to be true, so now several things exist that lightsabers can’t cut through. While that’s mostly fine, it ends up that everyone has that lightsaber proof material! I say that because it would make lightsabers more protected if they cut through everything. There would be missions to recover lightsabers, rather than let some “untrained” person have one. Plus, the Jedi would be blamed for anything that happens with a lightsaber.
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A look at Smilo Ren’s helmet:
More terrible directing and editing, with things like a weird nature scene in the middle of what should be dramatic. It looked like an anime trying to save on budget so they go with some weird unrelated shot while the actors talk.
I thought the fighting was fairly top notch, but admit the script must look something like this:
(Say something vague)
(Say something pseudo-profound)