Stargate Universe 1.12 "Divided"

I hope I’m doing this right. I’ve never started the thread for a TV episode before. I have always enjoyed reading and participating in the lively discussion regarding my favorite shows.

Anyhoo, what are your thoughts on the April 9 episode? I enjoyed the evolving dynamic between the military guys and the civilians. I didn’t see why Young had to personally go on the mission to find the tracking device. That seemed like a reckless move, knowing that he had a possible mutiny brewing.

I know it wasn’t his original mission, but I am amazed at how Col. Young is so obviously the wrong person for this situation. He seems to have no skills at building bridges among people and getting everyone to work together.

I thought it was a good episode, but I am also a bit frustrated with what seems like an inability to learn among most of the characters. It’s one thing to be the wrong person for the job, it’s another to be unable to learn from what seems to be making the same mistake over and over.

Col. Young bugs the crap out of me. It’s like he has to come up with the idea, or the idea’s crap. Your idea is wrong if it isn’t the same as his first idea. He is so unwilling to listen. ARG! I almost wished his ship would have gotten vaporized, except that I like the young guy who was with him (forget his name).

I have to wonder whether, in real life, the miltary types wouldn’t have killed a couple of the civilians ‘pour encourager les autres’ by now.

I think both Young and Rush are a couple of the best characters on TV. I dig that they are so very, very flawed.

So, uh, Chloe basically sided with the mutineers against Lt. boyfriend , is that right? That’s gonna be awkward in bed tonight.

Rush just seems the evil genius who sometimes does the right thing, very much cut from the same cloth as Baltar.

Col. Young, though, is a different matter. As RikWriter pointed out, he seems utterly unable to learn from mistakes. Given that he is essentially cut off from his chain of command and cut off from any hope of reinforcements and resupply, he is going to have to develop a new style of command. How many times is he going to have to be hit over the head with this fact before he comes around. Abandoning difficult people (like Rush) on strange planets is not an effective way to build teamwork. “Don’t you think I know that” indeed.

Chloe is spectacular to look at, but she is not the brightest bulb. Standing under that open hole cut by the aliens in the last episode was stupid. This time, she sides with the civilians. These are civilians that cannot even pull off a mutiny when the captain of the ship has left. The civilians are so fractured in their own coalition that I cannot imagine joining this group at all. The military folks seem to have a unity of purpose and some idea of what their purpose is. I’d hang with them in a heartbeat. Not to mention, I would tend to side with the guys with the guns.

What I don’t get is why are the civilians so willing to forgive Rush of all his lies and manipulations? He lied when he said that the folks back home placed him in charge in the first episode and more recently, he lied about there being a chance of getting home in a year.

It seems all Young has to do is start telling people the truth about Rush framing him. The civilians would then not only distance themselves further from Rush, but also understand why Young did what he did.

Got my hopes up with a little action last week, but this week it’s back to pointless, portentous angst for the sake of angst writing. Lot of nice CGI toys, but the scripting is erratic and weak, and of course there is Chloe who went from serious college student to blithering idiot in record time.

The military guys should’ve shut the civ’s the f up with a simple “we do report to civilian authority, the one back on Earth that we still can get orders from on a regular basis, fools”

I liked it better than last week’s.

TBG is right. The mutiny really didn’t seem very well thought through. What were the civilians going to do once they were in control anyway? Did they think SGC would go along with it? It’d be kind of funny if every time they stoned back to earth a swat counter-insurgency commando took over the body on Destiny.

I think they’re starting to think that they just aren’t getting back to Earth. And if that’s the case, then SGC just doesn’t matter, and they’re quite right to object to living under a military dictatorship for the rest of their lives.

Mulan chick (check her IMDB) needed a single round between the eyes. She contributes nothing except mutiny. The only good line of the episode was TJ’s “you made this war, this is what we’re good at.”

Did they actually ever address that? I kept waiting for there to be a scene where the SGC either confirms or denies Rush’s story, but if it came I missed it.

Yep. Or at the very least, IOA woman.

Definitely. Especially since IOA woman seemed to be in charge of the civilians, and the IOA outranks the SGC back on Earth.

I’d just like to know what is up with Rush. What is his actual agenda?