We don’t really need to spoil that theory about what’s going to happen do we? It’s just a theory, right?
Anyway, we’re only on ep 5. I’m pretty sure the ship is going to survive somehow. 
Especially since it’s been mentioned like 6 times already.
Anyway, count me among the fans of Corporal Boobzookas. General military clothing on these shows just doesn’t lend itself to suggesting what’s hidden beneath, and that (those?) was a pleasant surprise (googling “Julia Anderson” is as well).
My bad. I confused this thread with the other SGU thread.
Am I the only one filled with trepidation about this series? My first portent of apocalyptic disaster for the show is that Peter Deluise is directing it. Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy for what he’s done with the franchise, but man, come on, how many planets can there possibly be with piccolo playing, contraction averse, medievally attired inhabitants? The guy seriously needs to broaden his imagination.
Is he behind the series in general or just directing the occasional episode as he was wont to do in the other series? Is he writing/producing/creating?
More weird than the medieval planets was of course how quickly they made the whole Galaxy speak English without at least some kind of fanwankery about a Goould translator or something.
But then, we’re now four hours in, and the fifth is basically a part two, so it’s going to be at least til episode 6 before we see what the inhabitants of this galaxy are like. Given the “seeding” premise hopefully they will be different than Milky Way and Pegasus which were “immigration” cultures.
Regarding Peter Deluise and poking around the 'net a bit, it appears PD was brought in to direct tomorrow night’s episode and that’s it. He has nothing more to do with this series. Whether we see him again will depend on how well received tomorrow night’s Fire episode is. Well, it was called Fire. Now I see it’s named Light. SyFy seems to like taking a hiatus mid-season so if they haven’t already shot season 1 second half, who knows? It doesn’t look like he’s ever had that much influence over the show as much as he loves working on it, so I don’t think he’s directly responsible for all the curiously and annoyingly medieval human planets. I’d blame the budget guys for the Hercules & Xena look on half the planets we’ve seen.
Well, the Go’auld explain human transplantation around the Milky Way, but with the introduction of the Ancients and the Pegasus & Ori galaxies the idea now is that the Ancients seemed to have had some sort of racial cultural imperative to duplicate themselves in a slightly less developed form they called the “second evolution of humanity” with “humanity” being the translation of whatever it was they called themselves I guess. We are Ancients, for the most part.
SGU is a little different in that AFAWK, no Ancients ever set foot in these galaxies and so may not have been able to plant us “second evolution” types. Then again, ships that can build stargates everywhere may well have the capability to make humans, too.
I saw a Youtube clip from a comic con with a couple of the show’s creators. They were pretty tight-lipped at the time, but WRT English-speaking aliens in SGU: what aliens there are, are supposed to be mainly CGI, getting away from the humans everywhere theme.
I am not bothering to watch it … the preview about manning the shuttle turned me totally off.
What, you are going to randomly pick 15 people to put into a spacegoing vessel.
Who is going to be the commander, the XO, the lead enlisted. Who is going to be engineering, who is going to be medical, and who is going to be cooking washing dishes and making the coffee?
Humans are humans, we need structure or someone is going to end up dead, or [shudder] like those hippy communes in 1969 in san francisco, who is going to flush the toilets [and fix them when they get plugged]?
- I can remember hearing my uncle discussing a house he bought that had a hippy cluster living there. Apparently nobody wanted to bother flushing toilets. When they plugged solid to the top they started crapping in the bath tub. They had to essentially demolish the bathrooms and replace them to get OKd by the health department to rent to new people. From what I understand it was not an isolated istance :eek:
Ok, but is there any truth to that story. NB I’m not attacking you personally. I’m sure that’s what you were told. But is it possible your uncle just hated hippies and made up or exaggerated a story that confirmed his beliefs. I mean nobody could be bothered with flushing a toilet , really?
*After filling up the toilet they started on the bath*, really? Because the whole thing sounds like a make believe tale of how awful those goddamn hippies are and why don't they get a haircut etc.Well, my goodness. This episode about people randomly chosen to survive could have certainly been improved had the writers just given more thought to pooping hippies.
Was anybody else getting a BSG vibe from the music in tonight’s episode? Tonight was pretty good, I loved how the IOA women kept talking about how useful she could be. Cause having an accountant would be so useful for the survivors as they tried to make a life on an ice age planet. Oh and judging from the previews for next week…
…it looks like the Destiny is going to come into contact with aliens. Hopefully TPTB will keep their word and these will be truly alien (not-humanoid at all) aliens.
Another mook who liked the original film but never got into the previous series here. I’ll just chime in to say that although the premise and stories so far have been somewhat derivative and the outcomes predictable (look at all the posters who correctly guessed this ep’s climax a week before it aired), I’m really quite enjoying the show, mainly for its (IMO) excellent cast, solid, relatively logical scripting and first-rate production design and music.
Now I’ll go off the rails a bit to mention that although I’m fairly sure it wasn’t intentional at all, the first few episodes give off a weird vibe of the original Lost in Space TV series, which, IIRC, spent most of the first half of its first season off-world and had the Robinsons figuring out how to survive the conditions of their precipitous departure. Rush even comes off a bit like Dr. Smith from the earlier series at times. Nevertheless, I’m on board as long as it doesn’t go all campy on me.
Spoiler:
Well, it wasn’t quite like that. 15 were random, 2 were picked: obviously the pilot and the medic (the pilot already being something of a leader). The rest are just a mishmash of non-survival types anyhow, so it doesn’t much matter–it’s not like they’re going to found a viable colony with 17 people on a rock.
They left the resolution longer than I expected, though otherwise it played out pretty much as anyone could have guessed. I’m still enjoying it enough to keep watching.
I’m a moron. Please explain this to me.
I was getting a Vangelis feel with a little techno umph from the music. Wasn’t BSG more rock & classical musically?
Gotta say, the performance I’m most impressed with is Destiny herself. Maybe because she doesn’t blow it by talking. That ship has made me cheer several times now, and watching her surf right into a sun was awesome. So she does that every star system? Talk about a ship that’s all business.
Hey did I call it or what? This week Scott & Greer find ways to go shirtless! I’m over the sex scenes though. Bleh.
El_Kabong, I very much also got the Lost in Space with Dr. Smith vibe.
Sorry, my uncle was not in the habit of lying. Not everybody hated hippies, and not everybody made up lies about them. He was the same generation, and though not an antiestablishment type was pretty laid back, he just wanted to make a living which is why he rented to them in the first place. Not many people at that time would rent an entire house to a bunch of nonrelated people. heck, when mrAru, his barracksmate and I wanted to rent a flat with 2 bedrooms before we got married, the only reason we managed was because we could show them the actual marriage license and wedding invitations so we would not fall afoul of the maximum limit of unrelated people. [this was witchduck landing in Va Beach, in the mid 80s.]
Stop being snotty. I was making a point about the breakdown of the ‘human contract’ of behavior which can happen. Would you rather I bring in Lord of the Flies instead?
Well, you said you weren’t going to watch because having a lotto was such a turnoff and would lead to people crapping in toilets until they’re nothing more than solid plugs.
A main theme of the show is that these are the wrong people in the wrong place. Col Young says it every episode at least once, plus during the opening credits. The whole group are either scientists or military. They’re all an intelligent bunch with the exception of that stupid bald sergeant guy always stirring up trouble if not fomenting outright hysteria and mutiny.
I tend to agree with Young’s viewpoint. A pilot/leader and a medic are about the best they’ve got for a survival team. The group that got picked, whether he “fixed” the lotto or not, seemed about as good a group as any. I noticed most of the people were fairly low-key, personality-wise. Sergeant Ultra-Boobs might get irritating, always showing off her boobs then threatening to beat people up for looking at her boobs.
It’s not as if a group of 17 are going to start breeding and colonize a whole planet. The best they could hope for is to just get along and survive long enough for a possible rescue. Stargate has pulled off some pretty impossible things in its day. Destiny and its gate might have been destroyed but given time, who’s to say Carter & McKay wouldn’t figure something out?
Apparently, it only took Stargate 6 months to a year to find a planet with a core you can drill into and power up a 9-chevy gate connection. How long before they find another? Also, let’s not forget the comm stones. They don’t have a plumber? A psychologist? A doctor? A farmer? Stephen-fucking-Hawking for that matter? Yes, they do. Comm stones.
Peter Deluise worked as producer, writer, director, and extra on Stargate SG-1. A Mary Sue (technically, a Marty Stu in this case) is a writer’s self-insert character who is distilled awesomesauce that gets to interact with the main characters as an equal.
He wrote himself in as a character who’s dating the SG-1 hottie.
A Mary Sue[sup]*[/sup] is a term to describe a character who obviously is an idealised version of the author themselves. Usually the character has no faults, or if he has they are minor or quirky in nature. The term originally comes from fan fiction where writers add themselves, or a character very much like themselves, into the story.
Peter DeLuise has produced, written, and directed many SG episodes. Surprisingly, his major role in the series is that of a charming, competent, cop who becomes Carter’s fiancé. I’m pretty sure if Peter had got his way, Pete (the character) would have been married to Carter and joined on away missions by the end of the series. 
[sup]*[/sup]Warning: Link leads to tvtropes.org, a known time waster.
The more I think about it, the more those comm stones are potentially the funnest thing ever. Under the circumstances, I can’t think of a sweeter way to get stranded.
Five stones is it? At all times they could have five of Earth’s greatest experts at everything imaginable taking turns on Destiny. Meanwhile, five stressed out crew from Destiny could be on Earth mentally relaxing, recuperating and being tutored by the world’s greatest experts. Heck, if things calm down a bit and they have time to explore planets, then Tamara for instance, could actually go to med school. Hell, forget med school. She gets privately tutored by the greatest medical minds anywhere. Cram course.
Wanna have fun? Bring in Alton Brown or some other popular molecular gastronomist to work magic on whatever gruel they end up eating. They’ve already built Eli into the show as comic relief. No reason they couldn’t have a string of humorous celebrity cameos as occasional subplots. Maybe they can bring in Mike Rowe (and three million new slobbering viewers) to clean those stubborn toilet blockages. Jeff Corwin gets to tear it up on a herpetology world. I’d scream like a little girl seeing either of those two smartly got up in tight-fitting all black military drag. 
Are we limited to humans? Could a Nox body swap onto Destiny, with their mind over matter abilities intact?
I could sit here all day dreaming up possibilities for those comm stones.