they are working with a rape apologist who creepily wants to “protect” them from other rapists… When there are people with such offensive opinions that attacking women is not that serious, of course being escorted by such a person is potentially dangerous.
Prove me wrong, convince me that intentionally failing to offer citizens equal protection of the laws is not important to our country’s ideals.
You keep bringing politics into this but Bill Clinton is just as guilt. The fact that the Republicans were so focused on a consensual extra-marital affair to find the evidence at the time is immaterial to this fact.
The claim that put women on a pedestal has nothing to do with political party or ideology either. “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”
Nope
I was referencing this gem “Clearly it’s because women have been taught to react this way by leftist victimhood ideology, starting in the late sixties.”
It is you who is living under a victimhood ideology if you could get off of your cross, we could use the wood.
Let me quote Section 1 of the 14th Amendment for you just in case your memory is a bit rusty.
The clearance and arrest rates for rape are shockingly low in this country. Primarily due to the pervasiveness of rape acceptance myths like the ones you are so convinced are true despite all evidence.
If your mother, sister or daughter was raped wouldn’t you want her to see justice? If you, your father or your son was accused of rape wouldn’t you want them/your to have a chance to defend themselves?
Because of these rape myths they are under reported, because of these rape myths they are rarely investigated, and because of these rape myths they are rarely prosecuted.
Lets say pretend I buy your claim that many of these claims are false or unfounded. If it goes through the courts which have a presumption of innocence it is far more likely that a malicious claim will be discovered.
But when you remove the legal system as an option people will use other methods to find relief and in modern times that means going to the media. The media does not have the requirement surrounding an assumption of innocence nor standards of evidence.
The problem is that you are lying to yourself. You are not at risk of being a victim you are playing the victim and you are doing so purely out of myths and fear.
This is the basis of my claim that your actions are un-American, you are throwing the victims and the accused to the media do to your insecurity. It actually doesn’t matter at all what the percentage of false claims is for this to be true.
Your victimization mindset is denying all parties from the protections of due process which leads to two possibilities.
60,000 women, children and yes even men are being raped each year without justice or 100’s of men are thrown to the wolves in the media without access to legal counsel and due process.
As you seem to try and be a good person I doubt that this is with malice but our forefathers made it quite clear that doing nothing in the face of injustice is just as evil.
You clearly never read Ms magazine in those days or listened to conversations among my friends and female relatives. There was plenty of objections. We were scoffed at as prudes.
Plus the heated argument with my then-boyfriend about the rape in Revenge of the Nerds.
You treat women posters on this board like they don’t exist. Every single one who posts on these topics says that your approach on these issues is not only wrong, but disgusting. And that doesn’t give you any pause at all.
I feel compelled to add other details of that time. I was frighteningly naive when I went off to college. I frequently found myself - put myself, if you insist - into very uncomfortable situations with men my age. I had not the words or sense of self to voice my objections until in a similar position as Dr. Blasey Ford, although not by force. When I finally did, I was met with frustration and disappointment, but never with threats or violence. All of these men - of age 19 to 21 - sighed and backed off. To my memory, all saw me safely to my car or home with no further advances.
I say all this to say, it was by no means assumed universally, or even commonly, that anything short of kicking and screaming is consent. I can’t imagine any of them putting their hands over my mouth and turning up the music to hide my screams for help. Even in the freewheeling 70s, most of the time no meant no.
As I will keep repeating as often as is necessary: it’s actually worse than that. He doesn’t treat them like they don’t exist, he claims that they are brainwashed and that’s the only reason anyone disagrees with him. He has literally said this. Stop engaging him. Whether he’s trolling or mentally ill, there is no value in trying to convince him that he’s wrong after a statement like that.
Fair enough. PM incoming. I wanted to get your consent before doing so (and I say that without trying to reference or make a pun of the subject matter).
Fair enough as well, but I’m hitting the sack now so it’ll be a while, likely tomorrow night, before I respond.
How do you feel about Starvie using you as a coveragainst accusations of misogyny?
Why should she care, she obviously meant for it to be read. And in the Pit, no less. Your thinking sometimes doesn’t seem like…thinking.
But, no surprise there.
And Charmin meant for toilet roll tubes to be used for holding bogroll. Doesn’t stop you from sticking your dick in there, does it?
Like it’s no surprise you’re still posting more than an hour after your last “Grandpa needs a nap” post?
SA, despite the inevitable futility, I’m going to try to help you understand why so many people are pissed off with your way of thinking.
Say you want to buy a car. Do you
A) Look for one that was built in the 50’s, because they really knew how to build cars back then, or
B) Look for something newer?
If you answered A, do you realize how hard it would be to properly maintain it? Parts aren’t made for it any more. You have to go to junkyards and hope they have the same model that’s still serviceable. Or, you have to find a vintage car collector and convince him to sell you the part you need. It will be tremendously expensive. Bottom line is, you have to devote virtually your entire spare time and income to maintaining it, and in doing so, you deprive yourself of modern technology that would be much easier and less costly to maintain.
You’re doing the same thing with your moral values. They don’t work in today’s society. You’re devoting your life to maintaining obsolete values that don’t work for this time period. You may look like a sturdy monolith in your own eyes, but everybody else sees a piece of garish junk. Blame it on liberals all you want, but no society remains static for long. Remember when we outlawed slavery, despite pushback from the old values contingent? It’s like that.
That’s different. Those women are slut cum-buckets who deserved to be dragged through the mud. On the other hand, women who accuse Republican of sexually assault are almost certainly telling the truth and every effort must be made to get to the truth of the matter.
This whole thing is political circus. If this was to replace Clarence Thomas instead of Kennedy, we would not be hearing about a 35 year old sexual assault allegation that allegedly occurred while Kavanaugh was a minor. Those are some thin straws to be grasping at.
The Democrats are burning a lot of bridges and crossing a lot of Rubicons with this one but the fact of the matter is that this nominee is likely the 5th vote in favor of narrowing the scope of a constitutional right to an abortion and that’s a fight worth burning bridges over. I suspect that Kavanaugh will get confirmed and the next time the Democrats hold the senate and the presidency, they are going to pack the court.
Having watched yesterday’s travesty of a hearing, I’m not so sure it’s the Democrats doing the bridge-burning here, but if you feel Republicans can get along perfectly fine without the female vote, knock your bad self out.
As for your hypothetical about Democrats packing the court, that’ll be perfectly OK, because that’s what the Republicans would do, right?
Maybe judge Kavanaugh?
Sandusky, too!
Starvie got a three-day suspension for not knowing when to shut the fuck up.
There is something deeply wrong with you.
Interesting. So anyone who has “a problem” with rapists, is a left wing idiot? Fuck you.
Oh those fuckers “packed the court” alright, then Mitchell, their “special guest prosecutor lady” looked like she MIGHT go off-script and actually be HONEST, they took over again.
It was a shit show from start to finish, and they intended it to be a shit show.