True this. Women have no agency in his world view. Our beliefs are not our own. We are happy or unhappy at the behest of some puppet master, who constructs our mental map for us.
Women have always been told that it could’ve been worse. If some guy tries to assault us and we get away, we are lucky he didn’t catch us. If he assaults us and we struggle free, we’re lucky he didn’t rape us. If he rapes us, we are lucky that he didn’t kill us when he was done. We’re lucky that we didn’t get pregnant. If we get pregnant, we’re lucky that we got this gift from God.
Which is why you didn’t win any points when you pointed out that there are women who are kidnapped and held captive and raped daily for years, so maybe Ms. Ford should get over her assault because that didn’t happen to her.
I think on some level guys just don’t get it. The see rape as someone being forced to engage in a pleasurable or at least, potentially pleasurable activity. Because “the worst sex I ever had was still pretty good, har har har” ( I’ve heard that one a hundred times).
Sexual assault is a violation of autonomy at the most basic level. And that violation is magnified every time the victim is doubted and disparaged. The insinuation that is isn’t that big of a deal because you “let” other guys do that to you all the time. The implication that your dress or behavior proves that you really wanted it. The instruction that if rape was inevitable we should “relax and enjoy it”.
There was no recognition of how incredibly psychologically injurious sexual assault can be.
The “culture of victimization” was the one that existed back in the day.
We were victimized by being told it was not that big of deal. We were victimized when we were taught that we should ignore it and laugh it off. It only now that women are fighting that victimization by standing up and holding the perpetrators accountable and trying to change the culture that has enabled this behavior.
So true, and so well put.
I hope I’m not in the minority, but I don’t think Kavanaugh or Clinton are fit to hold any office. Is it too much to ask that the leadership of this country not be (alleged) sex offenders? This isn’t a court of law, it’s a job interview. There’s plenty of evidence to justify picking someone else!
What’s Clinton got to do with it? Why no mention of the Sexual-Assaulter-In-Chief?
As I man I have no possibility of even knowing what the social or personal impacts are for women and as I haven’t been raped I cannot even relate to that event. There is just not reasonable way for me to even hazard a guess. I don’t know how someone can even claim to know how someone should react to being a victim of a crime.
While I don’t want to reference someone who is suspended and cannot defend themselves as I was an active poster I do want to clarify.
There is no rational or moral justification for making a crime victim feel shame. A victim of rape or sexual assault do not deserve to be subject to pity in my mind, they deserve respect, compassion and understanding. They also deserve the basic human right of deciding how they feel about being a victim and we cannot tell them how to react.
Rape apologists are not victims they are perpetrators and do not have that same right in my mind.
While some posters were responding out of anger, my responses were driven by pity and embarrassed for someone who is so obviously wrapped up in insecurities as to strike out in fear at imaginary monsters.
Any anger I personally harbor is due to the collateral damage caused by these childish fears and that damage is disgustingly massive.
The only justification I can think of is that they view wives as property and responsible for their husbands actions or they think that Trump will nominate Bill to the supreme court.
Bill Clinton shouldn’t be revered but he hasn’t been relevant to politics for decades.
Not arguing against this in any way, but I’m pretty sure the objection is to packing the Supreme Court rather than the job interview.
Because that poster who cannot defend himself brought up Clinton when he first entered the thread, and because the weirdo further up this page repeated his argument?
Thanks mods. Much appreciated.
Thank you.
Heartfelt thanks from over here, too.
Just here to say “Booger!” before this gets closed.
Well fuckin’ A, that was well stated and welcome news.
Well, it’s for the best all around. On Starving Artist’s own repeated assertion, he’s always been a much nicer person and much better liked in real life than here on these boards. Now he can spend more time being a nicer person and better liked in real life, and we don’t have to deal with him being a pestilential dimwit online. Winning-winning.
Thank you. Fuck that guy.
Fucking finally.
The bunnies are finally happy that their nightmarish life as experimental subjects by SA is over!
I was pretty pissed, but now I’m much happier.
Guess there’s gonna be a shortage on toilet paper in his area, though.