That statement is total bullshit. Cite, please?
No, but it would be against the law for the government to make him buy you that meat.
The insurance covers contraception that the owners believe causes abortion. Prior to this year, Hobby Lobby bought really damn good insurance that didn’t cover these forms of contraception(but did cover all others).
Believe it or not, having to pay for Ella out of their own pockets is not going to cause a public health crisis. It’s not even going to cause a crisis for a single woman working at Hobby Lobby.
No, in and of itself, it is not a big hairy ass deal. It has implications that many of us find troubling, and make some of the rest of us hopping mad.
I’m glad someone finally pointed that out. But what are the implications? Seems to me they aren’t too serious unless you believe in something akin to a religion yourself, that the regulatory state must be all powerful.
All that has been established here is that if you force an employer who actually owns his company and runs it in accordance with his beliefs to violate those beliefs, it better be for a really damn good reason and there must be no alternative ways to do it. I just don’t see what’s so wrong about that.
I think the bright line falls between forcing a business owner to use birth control, and forcing a business owner to enable his employees to use birth control. The notion that it is sinful to pay for insurance that includes birth control is beyond ridiculous, and survives strict scrutiny, in my opinion. Religions cannot claim the divine right to control other people.
It’s not enabling. Hobby Lobby already enables its employees to use Ella by paying them. Hobby Lobby cannot be forced to buy them a policy which pays for it though. Especially since there was nothing wrong with the insurance Hobby Lobby already gave to their employees.
It’s kinda hard to believe that a company that pre-ACA was doing a lot more for their employees on the health insurance front than most retailers is now a villain over a disagreement over one clause of ACA. What made them generous to their employees was precisely the belief system that Chuck Schumer insists shouldn’t be part of doing business.
But that is not a legitimate religious objection.
If it is for a church that is incorporated, it is for a business.
Only because five Catholic men said so.
What does that even mean? Really.
Why does it not harm women terribly to give churches an exemption, but it’s a crime against women to give religious for profit business owners an exemption?
A War Against God!!! Dun-Dun-Dunnnnn!
Will the Democrats kick Gog’s Ass??
Or Will the Omnipotent one kick the asses of the Democrats???
Stay tuned…It’s a War Against God!
Because corporations are not people. That is why business owners incorporate; to separate their personal liability from the business. That separation cuts both ways. You can’t hide behind incorporation when it suits you, then claim a corporation has religious beliefs when the ball swings the other way.
Their belief that the contraception causes abortion is about as meaningful as my belief that the pineapple I just ate caused me to undergo an abortion. It’s unscientific, vacuous crap.
Adaher, I’m seeing what you’re preaching. Now I get it. I’m going to kick god’s ass- fuck god. This is a war. Who does god think he is? God?
Adaher, honestly, just ask yourself the following question, and answer it with your best integrity: How are you going to feel when the Jewish, and the Muslim, and the Satanist corporations start trying to dictate to their employees benefits based upon their various religious beliefs? Shall we force non-Moslem female employees to wear veils at work? What if they are employer-supplied veils, so the workers don’t have to pay for them? Don’t you see any troubling implications to "religious’ corporations? Will employees only be allowed to bring kosher food into the lunch room?
Employers already decide what your benefits are. Whether it’s motivated by their religion or not is immaterial to me. Employers are just as likely to give me MORE because of their religious beliefs as they are to give me less.
I’d also note that as a Jew, I automatically steer clear of overtly Christian businesses for employment. I need Saturday off, they close Sunday, we’re just not compatible in the first place.
What happens if you hold a war, but one side doesn’t show up?