Will we be paying their military salaries and giving them free health care at the same time? And are you okay with taking those opportunities from citizens who want to enlist?
And you know, I found an estimate that says there are 11 million illegal aliens in the U.S. I’m not sure we have room for that many new recruits in the military. Not without starting a couple more wars, anyway.
If you’re a native-born product of the California school system, I say let the immigrants have a shot. They could hardly sound stupider.
You truly are an idiot.
There are good arguments to be made in favor of stricter immigration laws, but the idea that illegal aliens have turned LA into a dirty, crime-ridden cesspool is nothing but the ravings of a delusional mind, both because Los Angeles is not such a place, and because the problems that it does have are far more complicated than your retarded assertion about illegal aliens would suggest.
You say that you live in North Hollywood, but i have trouble believing that you’ve ever even been to Los Angeles. You certainly don’t seem to know anything about it.
Who said about paying military salaries or free health care?
If you enlist and compete your duty you get citizenship.
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I was doing my civic duty a few years ago at jury duty, and a fellow juror told me that when he illegally immigrated to America from Mexico he could not speak a single word of English. He joined the army and they taught him English, gave him a college education and now here he was, a productive member of American society doing his civic duty in the juror system, and a tax paying citizen. That is the pathway to citizenship.
You’re aware that members of the U.S. military get paid, right? And there are hospitals that take care of them, even if they’re not wounded in combat.
Or would you get rid of all that? How long an enlistment should it take to earn citizenship, and how do these people feed and clothe themselves while they’re earning their citizenship?
And you didn’t answer my other question. Would you really take away 11 million jobs from U.S. citizens who want to enlist in the military?
Ya do understand we don’t make them go to school because we care about them, we do it to keep them off the streets and theoretically out of our courts, which already have plenty of juvenile delinquents to deal with.
Weeell, kinda hard to join the military these days without finishing high school, so that’s a problem for your extremely well thought out plan.
Are these “free” educations only to be available during “war” time?
Would you suggest the US stay in a perpetual state of “war” so Illegals can sign up, put their lives on the line, and prove that they would die for the USA?
Any suggestions on how we pick the next country we go to “war” with after we’re finished with Iraq and Afghanistan? Alphabetical order? Drunk monkey and a dart board? Olympic roshambo?
CMC fnord!
P.S. This thread is Stupid liberal idea of the day, you’re really not helping Clothahump out here. 
I invite you to visit Lankershim Blvd and Sherman Way in North Hollywood.
The Home Depot there is 100 deep in illegal aliens.
Seriously, I worked as an ambulance EMT in Los Angeles, Calabasas, Alta Dena, San Fernando Valley, La Canada, West Hollywood.
I’ve seen my share of los angeles filth.
And if these kids can go to college and get a degree, they will also end up as productive members of society and tax-paying citizens. The only difference between your plan and the California plan is that you want them to join the armed forces first. There is no good reason why that is more logical or feasible than the college route.
Also, news flash, moron: any kid who qualifies for one of the college grant programs is pretty certain to already speak English.
Of course there is.
I’d rather see my tax money spent sending an soldier defending my freedom, than my tax money spent sending a entitled foreign citizen going to college.
You do realize, i assume, that the “entitled foreign citizens” covered by this bill are people who were brought to this country as children, and who have already spent years in the California school system?
It’s not like they had a choice whether to come or not in most cases; they came with their parents, often when they were quite young. Even if we concede that their parents came illegally, and maybe shouldn’t benefit from government programs, it’s really rather pointless to take our frustrations out of the kids, especially since, as others have pointed out, refusing them an education out of spite simply means that they will be more likely to become a long-term drain on services rather than productive, tax-paying residents.
Plus of course they might die, so it’s win-win!
How would you feel about your tax money going to someone who stayed in this country and fixed tanks, loaded cargo planes, or did data entry on enlistment forms? Do you have to get shot at to become a citizen?
Seriously, watch a recruiting ad. The Army teaches you leadership, decision making, and a valuable skill like being an electronic technician or aircraft mechanic. To hear them tell it, the biggest difference between being a soldier and a college student is that students pay tuition, but soldiers get paid while they’re serving. It costs tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, to train a military pilot. Would your tax dollars go to paying that expense for an illegal alien?
Damn, that pisses me off. Why can’t they be like all the legal American citizens, none of whom deal in crime, drugs or filth?
Heinlein and Verhoeven would be proud.
-Joe
It’s a good thing your delightful last sentence here equating illegal immigrants with “filth” doesn’t make you seem like a raving, bigoted dipshit asshole. Oh no it doesn’t.
And that’s a good thing, because combining that with your inability to spell properly or capitalize might cause others to think you were an inbred, uneducated racist.
I for one only purchase 100% American filth. None of this foreign filth for me!
Besides, we all know that making higher education more available to people increases the probability of them becoming drug dealers, prostitutes and thieves.
Too stupid to be addressed.
The state budget, and by extension all taxpayers:
Observe how the AVERAGE immigrant and their offspring combined give a net $80,000 benefit, and that only increases with education level. And that’s just the first generation.
It makes more sense to provide higher education to anyone, illegal, citizen, or anchor baby, without regard for origin. Doing so is a net overall benefit.
I defy you to find a study that proves otherwise.
Since other people are doing such a bang-up job debunking your claims that this is a stupid liberal idea (and you can’t say you don’t care about Perry, since he’s proposed the same idea and he’s not liberal, which make the idea by definition not just a liberal one), I’ll just say…
Shut the fuck up, you racist shitbag.
You know, nonentity, you could pack up all your belongings in your car and be in Arizona before sundown, easy.
This thread is becoming a better example of Republican stupidity then the Stupid Republican Ideas thread has been recently.